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> So moral of the story? You don't own anything with DRM on it, until you make a copy that is free of DRM. Judge the price accordingly. Use the rippers as soon

by praptak 14y ago

> So moral of the story? You don't own anything with DRM on it, until you make a copy that is free of DRM. Judge the price accordingly. Use the rippers as soon as they are available. Exercise and eat healthy.

podperson 14y ago
The question is, how much is your time worth? I'd rather take the time I save by not ripping all my media and spend it doing useful stuff. Someday I may discover I can no longer watch old episodes of How I Met Your Mother -- and it will incense me, but I think I'll get over it.
- cullenking 14y ago
  But it doesn't take any time. I just plug in my Kindle into Calibre (OK yes, there was time to install Calibre and maybe 10 minutes of reading about what it can do etc), and it does the rest. It's incredibly simple. Just like maintaining a backup of your computer takes a little time up front, but hardly any marginal time, the same can be said of your Kindle.
  - podperson 14y ago
    This is great for ebooks but doesn't really apply so much to many other things that are DRMed which I might prefer to use for convenience. E.g. a DVD is DRMed and quite inconvenient to rip (and then you need to store the files somewhere).
    - steevdave 14y ago
      But you have the physical DVD. You don't have a physical copy of the books that they wiped. Or you do. I know I have some just for the convenience
bigiain 14y ago
I had a different take-away/question/moral. If un-notified/disclosed behaviour on a Kindle book purchasing account can get that or "a related account" closed without notice, and I've got important things running in AWS on both personal and work accounts that Amazon quite likely knows are "related" (since I and my colleagues often log out of personal accounts and into work/customer accounts), it seems like a non-ignorable risk that some of my critical infrastructure may one day vanish from underneath me and I'd end up in non-accountable support hell cut-n-pasting barely relevant sections of policy documentation in reply to email queries. All of a sudden having my businesses main cloud computing supplier be the same company that I personally use to purchase things like tech-toys, DRMed media, have occasional disputes with 3rd party vendors, and pay for high-risk projects via KickStarter - seems like an unnecessary business risk. This is possibly misplaced paranoia, but…

by praptak 14y ago

podperson 14y ago

The question is, how much is your time worth? I'd rather take the time I save by not ripping all my media and spend it doing useful stuff. Someday I may discover I can no longer watch old episodes of How I Met Your Mother -- and it will incense me, but I think I'll get over it.

cullenking 14y ago
But it doesn't take any time. I just plug in my Kindle into Calibre (OK yes, there was time to install Calibre and maybe 10 minutes of reading about what it can do etc), and it does the rest. It's incredibly simple. Just like maintaining a backup of your computer takes a little time up front, but hardly any marginal time, the same can be said of your Kindle.
- podperson 14y ago
  This is great for ebooks but doesn't really apply so much to many other things that are DRMed which I might prefer to use for convenience. E.g. a DVD is DRMed and quite inconvenient to rip (and then you need to store the files somewhere).
  - steevdave 14y ago
    But you have the physical DVD. You don't have a physical copy of the books that they wiped. Or you do. I know I have some just for the convenience

bigiain 14y ago

I had a different take-away/question/moral. If un-notified/disclosed behaviour on a Kindle book purchasing account can get that or "a related account" closed without notice, and I've got important things running in AWS on both personal and work accounts that Amazon quite likely knows are "related" (since I and my colleagues often log out of personal accounts and into work/customer accounts), it seems like a non-ignorable risk that some of my critical infrastructure may one day vanish from underneath me and I'd end up in non-accountable support hell cut-n-pasting barely relevant sections of policy documentation in reply to email queries. All of a sudden having my businesses main cloud computing supplier be the same company that I personally use to purchase things like tech-toys, DRMed media, have occasional disputes with 3rd party vendors, and pay for high-risk projects via KickStarter - seems like an unnecessary business risk. This is possibly misplaced paranoia, but…