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Um, the article I posted was about the same party. The BBC considers them far-right [1], Politico considers them far-right [2], Reuters considers them far-right
by antiframe 8mo ago
Um, the article I posted was about the same party. The BBC considers them far-right [1], Politico considers them far-right [2], Reuters considers them far-right [3], AP News considers them far-right [4], NBC News considers them far-right [5], the New York Times considers them far-right [6], Deutsche Welle considers them far-right [7].
I don't think the Wikipedia characterization is far off a pretty commonly held sentiment. You are of course, able to disagree and consider them far-left, center, or whatever label you want.
You stated earlier that because Wikipedia called mild immigration reform far-right (which it did not to my reading, so you pointed to National Rally as an example) words don't mean anything. But words do mean things by consensus, and from my reading the consensus is that National Rally is far-right.
Of course, many far-right (and far-left) thinkers consider themselves centrists or mild, so there will be disagreement.
[1]: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cxeee385en1o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cxeee385en1o
[2]: https://www.politico.eu/article/france-far-right-faces-internal-split-over-russia/ https://www.politico.eu/article/france-far-right-faces-inter...
[3]: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/le-pens-far-right-waiting-wings-frances-crisis-unfolds-2025-10-09/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/le-pens-far-right-waiti...
[4]: https://apnews.com/article/france-election-le-pen-national-rally-antisemitism-cd02c4c834a69430e3194ec7629f36f9 https://apnews.com/article/france-election-le-pen-national-r...
[5]: https://www.nbcnews.com/world/europe/france-raid-far-right-national-rally-party-police-bardella-rcna217683 https://www.nbcnews.com/world/europe/france-raid-far-right-n...
[6]: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/world/europe/france-national-rally-policies.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/02/world/europe/france-natio...
[7]: https://www.dw.com/en/france-far-right-rally-after-marine-le-pens-conviction/a-72156118 https://www.dw.com/en/france-far-right-rally-after-marine-le...
- Uhhrrr 8mo agoThe article you posted said, "we just call them that because everyone else does". But there's also an obvious semantic fail when 34% of the electorate is "far right". This means (16% - half the moderate percentage) is on the non-far right. It implies that "far" is just meaningless cant.