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Almost as many, but not more than :)

by MiiMe19 8mo ago

rootusrootus 8mo ago
Fewer than 50% voted for it, which means more than that voted against it.
- irishcoffee 8mo ago
  Negative. I encourage you to go look at the election results.
  - PaulDavisThe1st 8mo ago
    Kamala Harris/Tim Walz 75,019,230 48.34% Donald J. Trump/J.D. Vance 77,303,568 49.81% Various Others 2,878,359 1.85% So, 50.19% voted against Trump, 49.81% voted for him.
    - irishcoffee 8mo ago
      Voting for a 3rd candidate isn't a vote against one of the other two, or does your logic work both ways? so 51.66% of people voted against Harris? You know what, I don't even care if you respond. The election is over, and we can twist these numbers until the next election. The logical leaps taken about voting for/against someone are troubling. The tropes around this are disturbing. The emotional vitriol around all of those are even worse. The dude is the sitting POTUS. He stinks. Bitching about meaningless percentages isn't productive... at all.
      - rootusrootus 8mo ago
        > The logical leaps taken about voting for/against someone are troubling. The tropes around this are disturbing. The emotional vitriol around all of those are even worse. Alright, the next step is to accuse everyone who might try to ground the discussion in truth that they must have TDS. I am not a huge fan of accusing one's opponents of projection, but man, sometimes it really does seem to be the most plausible answer.
        irishcoffee 8mo ago
        > Alright, the next step is to accuse everyone who might try to ground the discussion in truth that they must have TDS. I am not a huge fan of accusing one's opponents of projection, but man, sometimes it really does seem to be the most plausible answer. Ground the discussion in which truth?
      - PaulDavisThe1st 8mo ago
        There is no question that he won the presidential election in 2024. However, when people say things like "this is what Americans voted for" ... there's a bit more nuance required. His election win is what our electoral process produced. But to conclude from that that an actual majority of Americans preferred his policies to anyone else's ... that's a mistake. And yes, 51.66% of people voted against Harris - they could have voted for her, but chose to vote for someone else.

Almost as many, but not more than :)

by MiiMe19 8mo ago

Almost as many, but not more than :)

rootusrootus 8mo ago

Fewer than 50% voted for it, which means more than that voted against it.

irishcoffee 8mo ago
Negative. I encourage you to go look at the election results.
- PaulDavisThe1st 8mo ago
  Kamala Harris/Tim Walz 75,019,230 48.34% Donald J. Trump/J.D. Vance 77,303,568 49.81% Various Others 2,878,359 1.85% So, 50.19% voted against Trump, 49.81% voted for him.
  - irishcoffee 8mo ago
    Voting for a 3rd candidate isn't a vote against one of the other two, or does your logic work both ways? so 51.66% of people voted against Harris? You know what, I don't even care if you respond. The election is over, and we can twist these numbers until the next election. The logical leaps taken about voting for/against someone are troubling. The tropes around this are disturbing. The emotional vitriol around all of those are even worse. The dude is the sitting POTUS. He stinks. Bitching about meaningless percentages isn't productive... at all.
    - rootusrootus 8mo ago
      > The logical leaps taken about voting for/against someone are troubling. The tropes around this are disturbing. The emotional vitriol around all of those are even worse. Alright, the next step is to accuse everyone who might try to ground the discussion in truth that they must have TDS. I am not a huge fan of accusing one's opponents of projection, but man, sometimes it really does seem to be the most plausible answer.
      - irishcoffee 8mo ago
        > Alright, the next step is to accuse everyone who might try to ground the discussion in truth that they must have TDS. I am not a huge fan of accusing one's opponents of projection, but man, sometimes it really does seem to be the most plausible answer. Ground the discussion in which truth?
    - PaulDavisThe1st 8mo ago
      There is no question that he won the presidential election in 2024. However, when people say things like "this is what Americans voted for" ... there's a bit more nuance required. His election win is what our electoral process produced. But to conclude from that that an actual majority of Americans preferred his policies to anyone else's ... that's a mistake. And yes, 51.66% of people voted against Harris - they could have voted for her, but chose to vote for someone else.