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Criticism of the EU always gets down voted here but this on point. The EU does too much trumpet blowing. Too much gets put into law/regulations and then ignore
by gib444 9mo ago
Criticism of the EU always gets down voted here but this on point. The EU does too much trumpet blowing.
Too much gets put into law/regulations and then ignored without any kind of retrospective with regards to undesirable effects and efficacy.
Companies have realised GDPR isn't really anything to be feared in reality. Don't quote issued fines at me - quote fines that have been actually paid at least (you'll find that harder to Google)
- briandw 9mo agoOne could argue that the intention of the law is to make it possible to collect revenue from non-EU companies. Since the EU doesn't have any sizable internet companies. Not counting Prosus group as they are a holding company, Spotify is the biggest at 100mm. EU doesn't care about small / midsized companies because they don't have enough income to bother with. "The purpose of a system is what it does".
- Y-bar 9mo ago> EU doesn't care about small / midsized companies because they don't have enough income to bother with. I am so very tempted to quote you sarcastically using mixed upper lower case text for how incredible wrong you are. Yes, there is less enforcement than I want of GDPR, but any insinuation that they do not bother is a lie. Here is your proof: https://www.enforcementtracker.com/ https://www.enforcementtracker.com/
- gib444 9mo agoWhich of those fined have landed in the EU's bank account?
- Y-bar 9mo agoNone. EU has no bank account. Fines are levied by member countries and their equivalent of the IRS and police collects them. Collecting these fines are a requirement to be a voting member of the EC, so any member state that fails to collect will be stripped of their right to vote on EU regulations.
- gib444 9mo ago[dead]
- briandw 9mo agopoint conceded, they do enforce gdpr on smaller companies thanks for the enforcement tracker link i scraped that page to get the raw data and added it up by company. i wanted to see how much the main us tech companies paid vs everyone else these aren't audited but total €6,848,216,522 us tech €4,527,961,028 so 66% from just a few companies from outside europe
- latexr 9mo ago> Criticism of the EU always gets down voted here The Chat Control threads are an easy example to demonstrate otherwise.
- gib444 9mo agoSure, pick the weakest part of my comment to reply to because I was imprecise in my language
- latexr 9mo agoYou make it seem like disagreeing with one of your arguments (you made more than one) somehow means I believe all of them are invalid. That’s not true at all. I also don’t see what was imprecise about your language, the argument seems quite clear. I do agree the GDPR is not enforced enough. I disagree that “criticism of the EU always gets downvoted here”. I don’t know about unpaid fines, but doing a web search I can’t find information either way, so perhaps if you know they aren’t paid you could provide the source for that claim? You don’t need to take it to heart. Disagreeing with your point isn’t an insult to you. We’re all wrong about some things and right about others. Saying that “X always happens on HN” is typically incorrect (I have yet to find the situation where it is true).
- gib444 9mo ago[dead]