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France24 article on this: https://www.france24.com/en/france/20260203-paris-prosecutor-s-cybercrime-unit-raids-x-s-french-office https://www.france24.com/en/fra

France24 article on this: https://www.france24.com/en/france/20260203-paris-prosecutor-s-cybercrime-unit-raids-x-s-french-office https://www.france24.com/en/france/20260203-paris-prosecutor... lol, they summoned Elon for a hearing on 420 "Summons for voluntary interviews on April 20, 2026, in Paris have been sent to Mr. Elon Musk and Ms. Linda Yaccarino, in their capacity as de facto and de jure managers of the X platform at the time of the events,

miltonlost 9mo ago
I wonder how he'll try to get out of being summoned. Claim 4/20 is a holiday that he celebrates?
- verdverm 9mo ago
  It's voluntary
  - dgxyz 9mo ago
    They'll make a judgement without him if he doesn't turn up.
    - pyrale 9mo ago
      An "audition en tant que témoin libre" is more or less the way for an investigation to give a chance to give their side of the story. Musk is not likely to be personally tried here.
- flohofwoe 9mo ago
  > Claim 4/20 is a holiday that he celebrates? Given his recent "far right" bromance that's probably not a good idea ;)
  - verdverm 9mo ago
    It hadn't occurred to me that might be the reason they picked 420
    - layer8 9mo ago
      It’s unlikely, because putting the month first is a US thing. In France it would be 20/04, or “20 avril”.
      - embedding-shape 9mo ago
        Still, stoner-cultures in many countries in Europe celebrate 4-20, definitively a bunch of Frenchies getting extra stoned that day. It's probably the de-facto "international cannabis day" in most places in the world, at least the ones influenced by US culture which reached pretty far in its heyday.
  - miltonlost 9mo ago
    Oh, that was 100% in my mind when I wrote that. I was wondering how explicit to be with Musk's celebrating being for someone's birthday.
  - inquirerGeneral 9mo ago
    [dead]
  - LAC-Tech 9mo ago
    We'll know he's gone too far if he has to take another "voluntary" trip to Israel
  - sophacles 9mo ago
    Wouldn't celebrating hitler's birthday be good for his far-right bromance?
  - GuinansEyebrows 9mo ago
    you would perhaps be shocked to learn how right-leaning the money folks behind the legal and legacy cannabis markets actually are. money is money.
  - terminalshort 9mo ago
    This isn't the 90s. The right doesn't give a shit about weed.
    - defrost 9mo ago
      The right didn't give a shit about weed in the 80's or the 90's depending entirely upon who had it. When Bernhard Hugo Goetz shot four teenagers on an NYC subway in the 80s, his PCP-laced marijuana use and stash back at his apartment came up in both sets of trials in the 80s and later in the 90s. It was ignored (although not the alleged drug use of the teenagers) as Goetz was dubbed The Subway Vigilante and became a hero to the right. ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_New_York_City_Subway_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_New_York_City_Subway_shoo... His victims were upscaled to "super predators".
      - terminalshort 9mo ago
        His victims? He was the victim. Shooting people who are robbing you (a detail you conveniently left out) is a good thing, which is why even a jury of NYC lefties acquitted him on the shooting charges. The only injustice here is that he did prison time for violating the clearly unconstitutional laws that required him to have a license for the gun. edit: > Canty would later testify that the victims were en route to steal from video arcade machines in Manhattan > Each of the four youths shot by Goetz was facing a trial or hearing on criminal charges at the time of the incident. Ten weeks prior to being shot, Cabey was arrested on charges that he held up three men with a shotgun in the Bronx, and he was released on $2,000 bail.[38] Cabey failed to appear at his next court date, resulting in an additional arrest warrant. Sounds like predators to me.
        defrost 9mo ago
        > Shooting people who are robbing you Check the civil trial transcripts, they were panhandling by multiple accounts. > Each of the four youths .. was facing a trial or hearing on criminal charges at the time of the incident. Minor stuff that was upgraded to a bench warrent after the shootings, ... > Sounds like predators to me That was how they were presented by much of the press until a good year after the first trial and Goetz's own description of his actions came out in the civile trial .. he one that awarded several million against him. Thanks for providing a perfect foil for the comment about heavily politicized and media warped "justice" in the US.
- bean469 9mo ago
  > Claim 4/20 is a holiday that he celebrates? Most likely, it's Hitler's birthday after all
BrandoElFollito 9mo ago
Why "lol"?
- verdverm 9mo ago
  420 is a stoner number, stoners lol a lot, thought of Elmo's failed joint smoking on JRE before I stopped watching ...but then other commenters reminded me there is another thing on the same date, which might have been more the actual troll at Elmo to get him all worked up
  - BrandoElFollito 9mo ago
    Well yes, if France24 was using "20 April 2026" as we write here, there would be no misunderstanding. I believe people are looking too much into 20 April → 4/20 → 420
    - verdverm 9mo ago
      Thanks for the cultural perspective / reminder, yes that is definitely an American automatic translation
      - deleted 9mo ago
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    - LightBug1 9mo ago
      April 20th most definitely is international stoners day. And I like what the French have done here!
      - thaumasiotes 9mo ago
        I assume in France international stoners' day falls on the 4th of Duodevigintiber.
    - Findecanor 9mo ago
      I believe the French format the date 20/4 ... and the time 16 h 20
why_at 9mo ago
>The Paris prosecutor's office said it launched the investigation after being contacted by a lawmaker alleging that biased algorithms in X were likely to have distorted the operation of an automated data processing system. I'm not at all familiar with French law, and I don't have any sympathy for Elon Musk or X. That said, is this a crime? Distorted the operation how? By making their chatbot more likely to say stupid conspiracies or something? Is that even against the law?
- DaSHacka 9mo ago
  [flagged]
- int_19h 9mo ago
  Holocaust denial is illegal in France, for one, and Grok did exactly that on several occasions.
  - pyrale 9mo ago
    Also, csam and pornographic content using the likeness of unwilling people. Grok’s recent shit was bound to have consequences.
    - chrisjj 9mo ago
      If the French suspected Grok/X of something as serious as CSAM, you can bet they would have mentioned it their statement. They didn't. Porn, they did.
      - pyrale 9mo ago
        The first two points of the official document, which I re-quote below, are about CSAM. > complicité de détention d’images de mineurs présentant un caractère pédopornographique > complicité de diffusion, offre ou mise à disposition en bande organisée d'image de mineurs présentant un caractère pédopornographique [1]: https://www.tribunal-de-paris.justice.fr/sites/default/files/2026-02/20260203CPXFrance.pdf https://www.tribunal-de-paris.justice.fr/sites/default/files...
xdennis 9mo ago
> lol, they summoned Elon for a hearing on 420 No. It's 20 April in the rest of the world: 204.

miltonlost 9mo ago

I wonder how he'll try to get out of being summoned. Claim 4/20 is a holiday that he celebrates?

verdverm 9mo ago
It's voluntary
- dgxyz 9mo ago
  They'll make a judgement without him if he doesn't turn up.
  - pyrale 9mo ago
    An "audition en tant que témoin libre" is more or less the way for an investigation to give a chance to give their side of the story. Musk is not likely to be personally tried here.
flohofwoe 9mo ago
> Claim 4/20 is a holiday that he celebrates? Given his recent "far right" bromance that's probably not a good idea ;)
- verdverm 9mo ago
  It hadn't occurred to me that might be the reason they picked 420
  - layer8 9mo ago
    It’s unlikely, because putting the month first is a US thing. In France it would be 20/04, or “20 avril”.
    - embedding-shape 9mo ago
      Still, stoner-cultures in many countries in Europe celebrate 4-20, definitively a bunch of Frenchies getting extra stoned that day. It's probably the de-facto "international cannabis day" in most places in the world, at least the ones influenced by US culture which reached pretty far in its heyday.
- miltonlost 9mo ago
  Oh, that was 100% in my mind when I wrote that. I was wondering how explicit to be with Musk's celebrating being for someone's birthday.
- inquirerGeneral 9mo ago
  [dead]
- LAC-Tech 9mo ago
  We'll know he's gone too far if he has to take another "voluntary" trip to Israel
- sophacles 9mo ago
  Wouldn't celebrating hitler's birthday be good for his far-right bromance?
- GuinansEyebrows 9mo ago
  you would perhaps be shocked to learn how right-leaning the money folks behind the legal and legacy cannabis markets actually are. money is money.
- terminalshort 9mo ago
  This isn't the 90s. The right doesn't give a shit about weed.
  - defrost 9mo ago
    The right didn't give a shit about weed in the 80's or the 90's depending entirely upon who had it. When Bernhard Hugo Goetz shot four teenagers on an NYC subway in the 80s, his PCP-laced marijuana use and stash back at his apartment came up in both sets of trials in the 80s and later in the 90s. It was ignored (although not the alleged drug use of the teenagers) as Goetz was dubbed The Subway Vigilante and became a hero to the right. ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_New_York_City_Subway_shooting https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_New_York_City_Subway_shoo... His victims were upscaled to "super predators".
    - terminalshort 9mo ago
      His victims? He was the victim. Shooting people who are robbing you (a detail you conveniently left out) is a good thing, which is why even a jury of NYC lefties acquitted him on the shooting charges. The only injustice here is that he did prison time for violating the clearly unconstitutional laws that required him to have a license for the gun. edit: > Canty would later testify that the victims were en route to steal from video arcade machines in Manhattan > Each of the four youths shot by Goetz was facing a trial or hearing on criminal charges at the time of the incident. Ten weeks prior to being shot, Cabey was arrested on charges that he held up three men with a shotgun in the Bronx, and he was released on $2,000 bail.[38] Cabey failed to appear at his next court date, resulting in an additional arrest warrant. Sounds like predators to me.
      - defrost 9mo ago
        > Shooting people who are robbing you Check the civil trial transcripts, they were panhandling by multiple accounts. > Each of the four youths .. was facing a trial or hearing on criminal charges at the time of the incident. Minor stuff that was upgraded to a bench warrent after the shootings, ... > Sounds like predators to me That was how they were presented by much of the press until a good year after the first trial and Goetz's own description of his actions came out in the civile trial .. he one that awarded several million against him. Thanks for providing a perfect foil for the comment about heavily politicized and media warped "justice" in the US.
bean469 9mo ago
> Claim 4/20 is a holiday that he celebrates? Most likely, it's Hitler's birthday after all

BrandoElFollito 9mo ago

Why "lol"?

verdverm 9mo ago
420 is a stoner number, stoners lol a lot, thought of Elmo's failed joint smoking on JRE before I stopped watching ...but then other commenters reminded me there is another thing on the same date, which might have been more the actual troll at Elmo to get him all worked up
- BrandoElFollito 9mo ago
  Well yes, if France24 was using "20 April 2026" as we write here, there would be no misunderstanding. I believe people are looking too much into 20 April → 4/20 → 420
  - verdverm 9mo ago
    Thanks for the cultural perspective / reminder, yes that is definitely an American automatic translation
    - deleted 9mo ago
      [deleted]
  - LightBug1 9mo ago
    April 20th most definitely is international stoners day. And I like what the French have done here!
    - thaumasiotes 9mo ago
      I assume in France international stoners' day falls on the 4th of Duodevigintiber.
  - Findecanor 9mo ago
    I believe the French format the date 20/4 ... and the time 16 h 20

why_at 9mo ago

>The Paris prosecutor's office said it launched the investigation after being contacted by a lawmaker alleging that biased algorithms in X were likely to have distorted the operation of an automated data processing system. I'm not at all familiar with French law, and I don't have any sympathy for Elon Musk or X. That said, is this a crime? Distorted the operation how? By making their chatbot more likely to say stupid conspiracies or something? Is that even against the law?

DaSHacka 9mo ago
[flagged]
int_19h 9mo ago
Holocaust denial is illegal in France, for one, and Grok did exactly that on several occasions.
- pyrale 9mo ago
  Also, csam and pornographic content using the likeness of unwilling people. Grok’s recent shit was bound to have consequences.
  - chrisjj 9mo ago
    If the French suspected Grok/X of something as serious as CSAM, you can bet they would have mentioned it their statement. They didn't. Porn, they did.
    - pyrale 9mo ago
      The first two points of the official document, which I re-quote below, are about CSAM. > complicité de détention d’images de mineurs présentant un caractère pédopornographique > complicité de diffusion, offre ou mise à disposition en bande organisée d'image de mineurs présentant un caractère pédopornographique [1]: https://www.tribunal-de-paris.justice.fr/sites/default/files/2026-02/20260203CPXFrance.pdf https://www.tribunal-de-paris.justice.fr/sites/default/files...

xdennis 9mo ago

> lol, they summoned Elon for a hearing on 420 No. It's 20 April in the rest of the world: 204.