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> Copyright infringement use to be the absolute worst crime imaginable if you asked the tech industry Every day hundreds of links to archive.is are posted[1] t

by Permit 8mo ago

> Copyright infringement use to be the absolute worst crime imaginable if you asked the tech industry Every day hundreds of links to archive.is are posted[1] to this website to get around paywalls. Technologists built file sharing tools to subvert copyright. It has never been one of the worst crimes imaginable in tech circles. [1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastWeek&page=0&prefix=true&query=archive.is&sort=byDate&type=comment https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastWeek&page=0&prefix=tru... (85 instances in the last week)

avaer 8mo ago
You might be looking at a small time horizon. What about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists ?
- direwolf20 8mo ago
  Let's not forget the death of Aaron Swartz.
  - avaer 8mo ago
    I don't think that was the "tech circles" being pro-copyright though. I've never met someone who wasn't on Aaron's side on that one.
    - anonymous908213 8mo ago
      "Tech circles" was never the claim. The original phrase was "tech industry", and that seems to be accurate. The post replying to it may have misread or misinterpreted what "tech industry" means. (Or perhaps the term is simply ambiguous and each person who reads it comes away with a different meaning!)
    - aleph_minus_one 8mo ago
      > I've never met someone who wasn't on Aaron's side on that one. This rather says something about the people by who you are surrounded. I know quite a lot of people who are on Aaron Swartz side here, for example people who are in academia or those who left academia but are still deeply interested in scientific topics.
      - direwolf20 8mo ago
        You agree with them
        aleph_minus_one 8mo ago
        Sorry, because I am not a native English speaker I misunderstood something. :-(
        jraph 8mo ago
        Your parent used a double negation, the sentence simplified would mean something like "any people I've met was on Aaron's side" :-)
  - Dracophoenix 8mo ago
    Jstor is a tech company?
    - jazzyjackson 8mo ago
      Well they certainly aren’t selling paper
      - Dracophoenix 8mo ago
        Jstor is an information database provider that that specializes in the republication of academic journal articles. The web is the company's delivery mechanism, not the defining trait of the its existence. A public-facing website doesn't make it anymore of a tech company as such than it would the New York Times.
        larsonian 8mo ago
        NYT is more of a tech company than you might think [1] and they've been one for longer than you might think: the de-facto standard profiler for Perl [2], of all things, comes from them. [1] https://open.nytimes.com/ https://open.nytimes.com/ [2] https://metacpan.org/pod/Devel::NYTProf https://metacpan.org/pod/Devel::NYTProf
- ineedasername 8mo ago
  Maybe the time horizon for a statement like that shouldn’t include the decades before most current tech companies existed, much less at this scale even for the few still kicking around from 50 years ago.

by Permit 8mo ago

avaer 8mo ago

You might be looking at a small time horizon. What about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Open_Letter_to_Hobbyists ?

direwolf20 8mo ago
Let's not forget the death of Aaron Swartz.
- avaer 8mo ago
  I don't think that was the "tech circles" being pro-copyright though. I've never met someone who wasn't on Aaron's side on that one.
  - anonymous908213 8mo ago
    "Tech circles" was never the claim. The original phrase was "tech industry", and that seems to be accurate. The post replying to it may have misread or misinterpreted what "tech industry" means. (Or perhaps the term is simply ambiguous and each person who reads it comes away with a different meaning!)
  - aleph_minus_one 8mo ago
    > I've never met someone who wasn't on Aaron's side on that one. This rather says something about the people by who you are surrounded. I know quite a lot of people who are on Aaron Swartz side here, for example people who are in academia or those who left academia but are still deeply interested in scientific topics.
    - direwolf20 8mo ago
      You agree with them
      - aleph_minus_one 8mo ago
        Sorry, because I am not a native English speaker I misunderstood something. :-(
        jraph 8mo ago
        Your parent used a double negation, the sentence simplified would mean something like "any people I've met was on Aaron's side" :-)
- Dracophoenix 8mo ago
  Jstor is a tech company?
  - jazzyjackson 8mo ago
    Well they certainly aren’t selling paper
    - Dracophoenix 8mo ago
      Jstor is an information database provider that that specializes in the republication of academic journal articles. The web is the company's delivery mechanism, not the defining trait of the its existence. A public-facing website doesn't make it anymore of a tech company as such than it would the New York Times.
      - larsonian 8mo ago
        NYT is more of a tech company than you might think [1] and they've been one for longer than you might think: the de-facto standard profiler for Perl [2], of all things, comes from them. [1] https://open.nytimes.com/ https://open.nytimes.com/ [2] https://metacpan.org/pod/Devel::NYTProf https://metacpan.org/pod/Devel::NYTProf
ineedasername 8mo ago
Maybe the time horizon for a statement like that shouldn’t include the decades before most current tech companies existed, much less at this scale even for the few still kicking around from 50 years ago.