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KDE's decision to move toward only supporting systemD systems is a real loss and saddens me. KDE has been my favorite DE for years. I guess all good things come

by JohnFen 9mo ago

KDE's decision to move toward only supporting systemD systems is a real loss and saddens me. KDE has been my favorite DE for years. I guess all good things come to an end, though.

jeroenhd 9mo ago
No, Plasma Login Manager relies on systemd. SDDM and any other login manager doesn't. You can still use KDE.
- JohnFen 9mo ago
  For now, but the writing on the wall seems clear. > The focus of the KDE team is clear, as stated in the referenced Reddit thread, where a KDE developer replies that the goal is to rely on systemd for more tasks in the future. This means that PLM is just the first step. https://hackaday.com/2026/02/02/kde-binds-itself-tightly-to-systemd-drops-support-for-non-systemd-systems/ https://hackaday.com/2026/02/02/kde-binds-itself-tightly-to-...
  - bri3d 9mo ago
    Hackaday, and you, omit the last sentence in the comment they quote: “The compromise is going all in contained areas where alternatives exist.”
    - JohnFen 9mo ago
      I hope that's true, and remains true. I mean, this is not exactly the most important issue in the world. I love KDE and hope it remains usable to me, but if things keep going as a fear, there are other DEs that I can live with.
- goodbyekde 9mo ago
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hnlmorg 9mo ago
They’re not. This is one new and entirely optional login manager. Nothing that is already available is changing
- philipallstar 9mo ago
  As one frog said to the other frog: it's only a couple of degrees warmer! What's the problem?
  - ahartmetz 9mo ago
    It's a minor temperature increase, but I believe that KDE quite explicitly does not intend to boil that frog.
  - hnlmorg 9mo ago
    Again, this is a new piece of software. It does not affect existing login managers (eg SDDM) and nor does it affect KDE Plasma itself. The approach the KDE team took here is 100% the correct approach and, crucially, does not affect Plasma’s cross platform support at all. This whole thing has been blown out of proportion by armchair critics commenting with made up hypotheticals without any of them reading what the actual change was. It’s ridiculous
goodbyekde 9mo ago
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by JohnFen 9mo ago

KDE's decision to move toward only supporting systemD systems is a real loss and saddens me. KDE has been my favorite DE for years. I guess all good things come to an end, though.

jeroenhd 9mo ago

No, Plasma Login Manager relies on systemd. SDDM and any other login manager doesn't. You can still use KDE.

JohnFen 9mo ago
For now, but the writing on the wall seems clear. > The focus of the KDE team is clear, as stated in the referenced Reddit thread, where a KDE developer replies that the goal is to rely on systemd for more tasks in the future. This means that PLM is just the first step. https://hackaday.com/2026/02/02/kde-binds-itself-tightly-to-systemd-drops-support-for-non-systemd-systems/ https://hackaday.com/2026/02/02/kde-binds-itself-tightly-to-...
- bri3d 9mo ago
  Hackaday, and you, omit the last sentence in the comment they quote: “The compromise is going all in contained areas where alternatives exist.”
  - JohnFen 9mo ago
    I hope that's true, and remains true. I mean, this is not exactly the most important issue in the world. I love KDE and hope it remains usable to me, but if things keep going as a fear, there are other DEs that I can live with.
goodbyekde 9mo ago
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hnlmorg 9mo ago

They’re not. This is one new and entirely optional login manager. Nothing that is already available is changing

philipallstar 9mo ago
As one frog said to the other frog: it's only a couple of degrees warmer! What's the problem?
- ahartmetz 9mo ago
  It's a minor temperature increase, but I believe that KDE quite explicitly does not intend to boil that frog.
- hnlmorg 9mo ago
  Again, this is a new piece of software. It does not affect existing login managers (eg SDDM) and nor does it affect KDE Plasma itself. The approach the KDE team took here is 100% the correct approach and, crucially, does not affect Plasma’s cross platform support at all. This whole thing has been blown out of proportion by armchair critics commenting with made up hypotheticals without any of them reading what the actual change was. It’s ridiculous

goodbyekde 9mo ago

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