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I don't really see what's so great about this. We can already embed maps, captions, links around the video via html. Why is it so groundbreaking to have it embe

by user24 14y ago

I don't really see what's so great about this. We can already embed maps, captions, links around the video via html. Why is it so groundbreaking to have it embedded within the video itself?

TomAnthony 14y ago
It is more that these can be triggered by events in the timeline of the video. I don't think the demo that Ryan gave necessarily helps to highlight scenarios where Popcorn would be helpful. Imagine you are watching a 45 minute video of a presentation about some topic in 1 pane in a window, in others you could have: - Another pane with the slides that the presenter is showing, in slideshare type format, so you can see them clearly. Changing automatically in time with the video. - A 3rd pane with a list of sources for that slide, with clickable links where appropriate. Now I can pause the video and look at the sources easily. I can see the slides clearly at all times. I can send people a link to a particular moment in the video, knowing they will have all this available to them also. I could even introduce a 4th pane that allows people to comment on certain slides, so discussions can be centered around certain topics in the presentation. My point is - the technology is cool, and opens up more options to us. Sure, some people will use it in poor ways, but I think other people could make some awesome stuff happen with this.
- user24 14y ago
  But you can do that already: setTimeout(displaySomeImage, offsetInVideoWhereImageIsMentioned); video.on('pause', pauseTimeouts); Give me a few weeks and I can build a rich JS video control which allows all that and more. You can resize video elements, move them, respond to pausing, hovering. Control the video from the page, the page from the video. All in HTML5+JS. There's also things like this: http://taxi.ba.com/ http://taxi.ba.com/ (feel free to use my postcode NN26JP if you need a UK postcode) Which I feel take video beyond the static - it takes streetview data and shows the plane literally taxiing down my street. Real time! Or things like http://www.takethislollipop.com/ http://www.takethislollipop.com/
  - epilepticrabbit 14y ago
    Popcorn.js is a javascript library, so someone who knows Javascript can do all the things shown in the demo using the library. Takethislollipop is running on popcorn.js. The neat thing here is that Mozilla is creating software for people that are NOT devs, so that they too can be creative in bringing dynamic data into a video, while at the same time learning about some of the open technologies that power the digital world. If you want to, and you have that few weeks, you can contribute: https://wiki.mozilla.org/PopcornMaker/QA https://wiki.mozilla.org/PopcornMaker/QA
    - user24 14y ago
      Aha! That explains a lot. I think my expectation from the ted vid was that it was going to be something that wasn't already possible. But while it's not quite that, it is still cool that it's a framework for non-techies to produce richer video content

by user24 14y ago

I don't really see what's so great about this. We can already embed maps, captions, links around the video via html. Why is it so groundbreaking to have it embedded within the video itself?

TomAnthony 14y ago

It is more that these can be triggered by events in the timeline of the video. I don't think the demo that Ryan gave necessarily helps to highlight scenarios where Popcorn would be helpful. Imagine you are watching a 45 minute video of a presentation about some topic in 1 pane in a window, in others you could have: - Another pane with the slides that the presenter is showing, in slideshare type format, so you can see them clearly. Changing automatically in time with the video. - A 3rd pane with a list of sources for that slide, with clickable links where appropriate. Now I can pause the video and look at the sources easily. I can see the slides clearly at all times. I can send people a link to a particular moment in the video, knowing they will have all this available to them also. I could even introduce a 4th pane that allows people to comment on certain slides, so discussions can be centered around certain topics in the presentation. My point is - the technology is cool, and opens up more options to us. Sure, some people will use it in poor ways, but I think other people could make some awesome stuff happen with this.

user24 14y ago
But you can do that already: setTimeout(displaySomeImage, offsetInVideoWhereImageIsMentioned); video.on('pause', pauseTimeouts); Give me a few weeks and I can build a rich JS video control which allows all that and more. You can resize video elements, move them, respond to pausing, hovering. Control the video from the page, the page from the video. All in HTML5+JS. There's also things like this: http://taxi.ba.com/ http://taxi.ba.com/ (feel free to use my postcode NN26JP if you need a UK postcode) Which I feel take video beyond the static - it takes streetview data and shows the plane literally taxiing down my street. Real time! Or things like http://www.takethislollipop.com/ http://www.takethislollipop.com/
- epilepticrabbit 14y ago
  Popcorn.js is a javascript library, so someone who knows Javascript can do all the things shown in the demo using the library. Takethislollipop is running on popcorn.js. The neat thing here is that Mozilla is creating software for people that are NOT devs, so that they too can be creative in bringing dynamic data into a video, while at the same time learning about some of the open technologies that power the digital world. If you want to, and you have that few weeks, you can contribute: https://wiki.mozilla.org/PopcornMaker/QA https://wiki.mozilla.org/PopcornMaker/QA
  - user24 14y ago
    Aha! That explains a lot. I think my expectation from the ted vid was that it was going to be something that wasn't already possible. But while it's not quite that, it is still cool that it's a framework for non-techies to produce richer video content