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You need ID to buy cigarettes and alcohol, prescription drugs or to get sim card... you will need it to register for social network account... do not seem as bi

by aacid 8mo ago

You need ID to buy cigarettes and alcohol, prescription drugs or to get sim card... you will need it to register for social network account... do not seem as big of a deal to me. Even less when considering all the positives.

donglong 8mo ago
American here. it's a very big deal.
- kubb 8mo ago
  Thank you for your wisdom, oracle of freedom.
  - donglong 8mo ago
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- surgical_fire 8mo ago
  Then there's nothing for you here, you don't live in Spain.
  - donglong 8mo ago
    ok i will get in line: the rest of the world first, then america, then the spanish last. as is your wish. if you need us we'll be here.
- rasz 8mo ago
  American American or 'American' with account registered in Nigeria/India using VPN to post on social media? "How X's new location feature exposed big US politics accounts" https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj38m11218xo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj38m11218xo https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/23/rightwing-influencers-outside-us-x-twitter-tool https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/23/rightwing-in... https://weaponizedspaces.substack.com/p/x-just-accidentally-exposed-a-vast https://weaponizedspaces.substack.com/p/x-just-accidentally-... or maybe VPN using Canadian secessionist from Thailand? https://www.cp24.com/news/canada/2025/12/04/rage-or-real-experts-urge-caution-as-x-reveals-location-data/ https://www.cp24.com/news/canada/2025/12/04/rage-or-real-exp... For Europeans ID is not as big of a deal as losing democracy thru foreign influence manipulating public opinion on a massive scale.
  - donglong 8mo ago
    "losing democracy through foreign interest" brother the pedo globalists are importing the entire 3rd world into your countries to support property prices and maintain power. you guys are beyond cooked. call us when you need us.
bondarchuk 8mo ago
Needing ID to buy a sim card was a big deal, though. Didn't seem like it because it seemed like we still had the internet for anonymous communication. That will be gone soon by the looks of it. Frog status: boiled.
gorgolo 8mo ago
When I show my ID at the cash register I assume the person working there doesn’t instantaneously memorize all my details and then write down when exactly I was at the shop, along with other details, to use this info later for their own reasons. Whereas if I upload my ID to a tech company (that potentially answers to both my own government and foreign governments, as well as having its own ad-related agenda) I am a bit less certain about what will happen to this data.
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- ryandrake 8mo ago
  > Whereas if I upload my ID to a tech company (that potentially answers to both my own government and foreign governments, as well as having its own ad-related agenda) I am a bit less certain about what will happen to this data. "A bit less certain" is a really mild way of putting it. I'd be confident that whatever ID I upload to the Internet is going to be stored forever, shared with "partner" companies, linked with as much data about me as those partner companies can find, and then eventually leaked in a security breach, resulting in the company issuing a press release telling everyone they "Take Security Very Seriously."
uyzstvqs 8mo ago
Showing ID at a store doesn't de-facto make a copy. They don't associate my full ID to the purchase, at most a manually entered DoB. And if you're suggesting Digital ID (EUDI style); showing ID at the store doesn't share metadata of that purchase with the government.
fipar 8mo ago
When traveling abroad, it always surprises me when I’m asked for my id when buying alcohol. That’s only a thing in my country when you’re in the age bracket in which it’s risky to tell your age just by your looks, but after that, I haven’t been asked for my id since at least I’m 20 or 21 (drinking age is 18 here). Prescription drugs are different because those are tied to your name anyway, and that’s why medical information has a different protection standard. As a parent of 2 I think it’s better to talk to your kids, check what they’re up to, and, you know, be involved in their lives. Also, as a former kid, if there’s something they want to do but you don’t want them to: they’ll do it. Better that they know they can trust you to say “I still want to do X” than have to do it in hiding and without your support if anything goes wrong.
tamimio 8mo ago
I hope this is a satire post..
Markoff 8mo ago
that's exactly my proposal with protecting children online - issue unique certificates for some symbolic price like 1EUR which will be sold over 18yo in shops exactly same as alcohol and cigarettes where nobody writes down your ID details, heck don't even have a look if you look old enough, that's as far as I am willing to go to protect kids (without this certificate) online, anything else is just internet deanonymization
lossyalgo 8mo ago
The problem is that they promise to delete IDs but then don't, and get hacked, and then all that personal information is published to the dark web for nefarious purposes. If you need evidence, it just happened again to 70,000 Discord users: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8jmzd972leo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8jmzd972leo

by aacid 8mo ago

donglong 8mo ago

American here. it's a very big deal.

kubb 8mo ago
Thank you for your wisdom, oracle of freedom.
- donglong 8mo ago
  [flagged]
surgical_fire 8mo ago
Then there's nothing for you here, you don't live in Spain.
- donglong 8mo ago
  ok i will get in line: the rest of the world first, then america, then the spanish last. as is your wish. if you need us we'll be here.
rasz 8mo ago
American American or 'American' with account registered in Nigeria/India using VPN to post on social media? "How X's new location feature exposed big US politics accounts" https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj38m11218xo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj38m11218xo https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/23/rightwing-influencers-outside-us-x-twitter-tool https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/23/rightwing-in... https://weaponizedspaces.substack.com/p/x-just-accidentally-exposed-a-vast https://weaponizedspaces.substack.com/p/x-just-accidentally-... or maybe VPN using Canadian secessionist from Thailand? https://www.cp24.com/news/canada/2025/12/04/rage-or-real-experts-urge-caution-as-x-reveals-location-data/ https://www.cp24.com/news/canada/2025/12/04/rage-or-real-exp... For Europeans ID is not as big of a deal as losing democracy thru foreign influence manipulating public opinion on a massive scale.
- donglong 8mo ago
  "losing democracy through foreign interest" brother the pedo globalists are importing the entire 3rd world into your countries to support property prices and maintain power. you guys are beyond cooked. call us when you need us.

bondarchuk 8mo ago

Needing ID to buy a sim card was a big deal, though. Didn't seem like it because it seemed like we still had the internet for anonymous communication. That will be gone soon by the looks of it. Frog status: boiled.

gorgolo 8mo ago

When I show my ID at the cash register I assume the person working there doesn’t instantaneously memorize all my details and then write down when exactly I was at the shop, along with other details, to use this info later for their own reasons. Whereas if I upload my ID to a tech company (that potentially answers to both my own government and foreign governments, as well as having its own ad-related agenda) I am a bit less certain about what will happen to this data.

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ryandrake 8mo ago
> Whereas if I upload my ID to a tech company (that potentially answers to both my own government and foreign governments, as well as having its own ad-related agenda) I am a bit less certain about what will happen to this data. "A bit less certain" is a really mild way of putting it. I'd be confident that whatever ID I upload to the Internet is going to be stored forever, shared with "partner" companies, linked with as much data about me as those partner companies can find, and then eventually leaked in a security breach, resulting in the company issuing a press release telling everyone they "Take Security Very Seriously."

uyzstvqs 8mo ago

Showing ID at a store doesn't de-facto make a copy. They don't associate my full ID to the purchase, at most a manually entered DoB. And if you're suggesting Digital ID (EUDI style); showing ID at the store doesn't share metadata of that purchase with the government.

fipar 8mo ago

When traveling abroad, it always surprises me when I’m asked for my id when buying alcohol. That’s only a thing in my country when you’re in the age bracket in which it’s risky to tell your age just by your looks, but after that, I haven’t been asked for my id since at least I’m 20 or 21 (drinking age is 18 here). Prescription drugs are different because those are tied to your name anyway, and that’s why medical information has a different protection standard. As a parent of 2 I think it’s better to talk to your kids, check what they’re up to, and, you know, be involved in their lives. Also, as a former kid, if there’s something they want to do but you don’t want them to: they’ll do it. Better that they know they can trust you to say “I still want to do X” than have to do it in hiding and without your support if anything goes wrong.

tamimio 8mo ago

I hope this is a satire post..

Markoff 8mo ago

that's exactly my proposal with protecting children online - issue unique certificates for some symbolic price like 1EUR which will be sold over 18yo in shops exactly same as alcohol and cigarettes where nobody writes down your ID details, heck don't even have a look if you look old enough, that's as far as I am willing to go to protect kids (without this certificate) online, anything else is just internet deanonymization

lossyalgo 8mo ago

The problem is that they promise to delete IDs but then don't, and get hacked, and then all that personal information is published to the dark web for nefarious purposes. If you need evidence, it just happened again to 70,000 Discord users: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8jmzd972leo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c8jmzd972leo