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Doesn't really mater, when these things are being politicized and fueled by racism (always need some boogeyman), you'll always see wildly disproportionate cover

Doesn't really mater, when these things are being politicized and fueled by racism (always need some boogeyman), you'll always see wildly disproportionate coverage. If some illegal / undocumented foreigner sexually assaults a white person, that's all you'll see in the newspapers and media for a week. There will be townhall meetings, debates, protests. While all this happens, twice as many will experience the same SA by their spouse, family member/friend, tinder date, or whatever. Likely you'll never hear about those - as if they never happened. In the end, public perception is what drives everything. Far-right media has known this for a long time - and are using it for all it is worth. They also know that no one ever won the public by defending criminals.

TonyStr 8mo ago
> While all this happens, twice as many will experience the same SA by their spouse, family member/friend, tinder date, or whatever Figure 2 shows that sexual assault is almost twice as likely to be perpetrated by immigrants than US-born citizens[0]. As a foreigner with no ball in the game here, I've seen a lot of outrage from both black-on-white and white-on-black violence in the US. Maybe some news papers like fox news are more selective in what they show, but APNews (which I've been reading for world news) seems to cover a pretty balanced range of racial crime. > If some illegal / undocumented foreigner sexually assaults a white person, that's all you'll see in the newspapers and media for a week. There will be townhall meetings, debates, protests. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the scale of this, but surely it doesn't compare to the response that George Floyd got? [0] - https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117#fig02 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117#fig02
- TrackerFF 8mo ago
  SA: US-born citizen: 18.2 Legal immigrant: 31.2 Undocumented immigrant: 11.3 So while this is very US (Texas) specific study, and doesn't seem to provide more granular data. At least where I'm from (Norway), studies have shown that people born to immigrant parents tend to be most at risk, and be assaulted by other people born to immigrant parents. So basically immigrant-on-immigrant violence. Not sure if that at all translates to Texas. The studies usually don't try to explain why these things happen, but could be the result of things like socioeconomic factors. Not to mention all the dark numbers - how many illegal immigrants that experience assault will report that to law enforcement? Compared to legal citizens.
  - pjc50 8mo ago
    > be assaulted by other people born to immigrant parents. So basically immigrant-on-immigrant violence People born of immigrant parents aren't immigrants! (* terms and conditions apply)
- jalapenoi 8mo ago
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xtiansimon 8mo ago
> “They also know that no one ever won the public by defending criminals.” Chilling thought, given the outright lying coming from the Executive.
drcongo 8mo ago
The sort of people who need to hear this also can't read a graph.
KevinMS 8mo ago
> While all this happens, twice as many will experience the same SA by their spouse, family member/friend, tinder date, or whatever. Likely you'll never hear about those - as if they never happened. Does it matter? The crime's by illegals are *additional* crimes that wouldn't have happened. The crimes committed by citizens are just the cost of business.

TonyStr 8mo ago

> While all this happens, twice as many will experience the same SA by their spouse, family member/friend, tinder date, or whatever Figure 2 shows that sexual assault is almost twice as likely to be perpetrated by immigrants than US-born citizens[0]. As a foreigner with no ball in the game here, I've seen a lot of outrage from both black-on-white and white-on-black violence in the US. Maybe some news papers like fox news are more selective in what they show, but APNews (which I've been reading for world news) seems to cover a pretty balanced range of racial crime. > If some illegal / undocumented foreigner sexually assaults a white person, that's all you'll see in the newspapers and media for a week. There will be townhall meetings, debates, protests. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the scale of this, but surely it doesn't compare to the response that George Floyd got? [0] - https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117#fig02 https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117#fig02

TrackerFF 8mo ago
SA: US-born citizen: 18.2 Legal immigrant: 31.2 Undocumented immigrant: 11.3 So while this is very US (Texas) specific study, and doesn't seem to provide more granular data. At least where I'm from (Norway), studies have shown that people born to immigrant parents tend to be most at risk, and be assaulted by other people born to immigrant parents. So basically immigrant-on-immigrant violence. Not sure if that at all translates to Texas. The studies usually don't try to explain why these things happen, but could be the result of things like socioeconomic factors. Not to mention all the dark numbers - how many illegal immigrants that experience assault will report that to law enforcement? Compared to legal citizens.
- pjc50 8mo ago
  > be assaulted by other people born to immigrant parents. So basically immigrant-on-immigrant violence People born of immigrant parents aren't immigrants! (* terms and conditions apply)
jalapenoi 8mo ago
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xtiansimon 8mo ago

> “They also know that no one ever won the public by defending criminals.” Chilling thought, given the outright lying coming from the Executive.

drcongo 8mo ago

The sort of people who need to hear this also can't read a graph.

KevinMS 8mo ago

> While all this happens, twice as many will experience the same SA by their spouse, family member/friend, tinder date, or whatever. Likely you'll never hear about those - as if they never happened. Does it matter? The crime's by illegals are *additional* crimes that wouldn't have happened. The crimes committed by citizens are just the cost of business.