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We have banned heroin so we should be able to ban anything else that's toxic. For us, close ones or even the generations to come. Algorithm, food, intoxicants,
by shrubby 9mo ago
We have banned heroin so we should be able to ban anything else that's toxic. For us, close ones or even the generations to come.
Algorithm, food, intoxicants, anything that has manipulative potential.
- teekert 9mo agoWell, yeah, but who are you to decide what I do with my body? I'm not hurting anyone. (Nice to meet you, I'm the advocate of the Devil.)
- randomNumber7 9mo agoIf I would look onto you as my obedient slavish worker I would like you to not kill yourself.
- leoedin 9mo ago> We have banned heroin so we should be able to ban anything else that's toxic Except banning heroin clearly didn't work so well! There's still a lot of people using it. And the profits from selling it go to criminal gangs. And the people using it often die due to inconsistent dosing. How do you define "manipulative potential"? If you ban sugar in drinks, do you ban fruit juice too? Where do we draw the line for "acceptable harm"? Personally I don't want to live in a society which bans huge numbers of things.
- fsflover 9mo agoYou can tax drinks based on the amount of sugar they contain. Yes, including juices.
- teekert 9mo agoYeah, in my country oat milk is now taxed as a juice, of course milk isn't. So the plant based alternative is now 2x the price of cow milk. Thanx Milk industry.
- cpursley 9mo agoMilk is an order of magnitude healthier than the highly processed sludge called oak “milk”.
- fsflover 9mo agoSource?
- cpursley 9mo agoIt’s considered an Ultraproceed food item. Just look up how it’s made and what’s added to it (oils, emulsifiers, fortified with minerals). It’s basically liquid cereal, but maybe worse.
- fsflover 9mo ago> It’s considered an Ultraproceed food item By whom? Oils are not necessarily bad for you.
- shrubby 9mo agoAnimal fat/milk with the hormones of a different mammal seem to be causing a lot of problems. Planetary and health related. And the low fat milk in the carton is pretty far from natural, where oat milk in example seems to be pretty simple process based on quick googling: https://www.loveandlemons.com/oat-milk/ https://www.loveandlemons.com/oat-milk/ Of course any industry can make anything ultra processed, like oat milk, but the generalization was wee bit hefty here.
- cpursley 9mo agoWith dairy, is especially important to go for the organic options. In generally (excluding parts of Asia), humans have been cultivating livestock and consuming dairy for tens of thousands of years. Our bodies are evolved for it, but not the ultra processed goop and all the added sugar everywhere. If you want to avoid animal products, it’s probably best to just drink water than these engineered “milks”.
- hellweaver666 9mo agoWhat's the difference between a big company and a criminal gang if not for the law? If it wasn't for the big companies, more dangerous things would be illegal, just like Heroin and other hard drugs.
- cobblestone32 9mo agoI mean, it's not often you hear about tobacco dealers shooting each other in a crowded mall, or alcohol bosses getting their house blown up (or sometimes their neighbors house). So there might be a few small differences between companies and criminal gangs.
- mapontosevenths 9mo ago> or alcohol bosses getting their house blown up (or sometimes their neighbors house). There was a time when alcohol dealing led to an awful lot of that sort of violence. We put a stop to it when we legalized Alcohol and regulated it.
- randomNumber7 9mo agoI agree. Maybe one would need to ban the misinformative marketing (although I know that opens another can of worms).
- frostyel 9mo ago[dead]
- tirant 9mo agoShall we ban sex too? Our bodies interact with extremely large amounts of elements in the environment and behavior that act beyond our conscious comprehension. Sometimes in our favour and some others against us. Banning everything that at some point worked against us is just establishing human life full of total deprivation. Worse than living in jail. Good luck maintaining a society in those conditions. The individual and the society should instead focus on educating and teaching how to navigate an environment full of those elements.
- awesome_dude 9mo agoThat would be fine, if countries like the USA weren't actively turning their backs on logic and facts, and returning to a period that history refers to as the "dark ages"
- cobblestone32 9mo agoI'm having a hard time seeing a valid comparison between the act of keeping the species alive and the act of consuming poisonous chemicals.
- Ekaros 9mo agoIt didn't seem to go too well last time it was attempted with one other drug. Namely ethanol. It might be time to try again as there doesn't seem to be any safe consumption level.