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Microsoft did do the experiment (Project Natick) where they had "datacenters" in pods under the sea with really good results. The idea was simply to ship enough

Microsoft did do the experiment (Project Natick) where they had "datacenters" in pods under the sea with really good results. The idea was simply to ship enough extra capacity, but due to the environment, the failure rates where 1/8th of normal. Still, dropping a pod into the sea makes more sense than launching it into space. At least cooling, power, connectivity and eventual maintenance is simpler. The whole thing makes no sense and is seems like it's just Musk doing financial manipulation again. https://news.microsoft.com/source/features/sustainability/project-natick-underwater-datacenter/ https://news.microsoft.com/source/features/sustainability/pr...

zarzavat 9mo ago
> The whole thing makes no sense and is seems like it's just Musk doing financial manipulation again. It's a fig leaf for getting two IPOs in one. There's no sense in analyzing it any further.
- ryandvm 9mo ago
  Exactly. He can croon about DOGE all day, but the reality is his entire fortune was built on feeding at the trough of government largess. That's why he talks about Mars all the time. He's not stupid enough to think we could actually live there, but damn if he couldn't make a couple trillion skimming off the top of the world's most expensive space program.
  - alextingle 9mo ago
    No, I think he is that stupid.
- AlexC04 9mo ago
  Right, let's not forget that he's selling it to himself in an all stock deal. He could have priced it at eleventy kajillion dollars and it would have had the same meaning. He's basically trading two cypto coins with himself and sending out a press release.
moontear 9mo ago
The experiment may have been successful, but if it was why don't we see underwater datacenters everywhere? It probably is a similar reason why we won't see space datacenters in the near future either. Space has solar energy going for itself. With underwater you don't need to lug a 1420 ton rocket with a datacenter payload to space.
- dubcanada 9mo ago
  Salt water absolutely murders things, combined with constant movement almost anything will be torn apart in very little time. It's an extremely harsh environment compared to space, which is not anything. If you can get past the solar extremes without earths shield, it's almost perfect for computers. A vacuum, energy source available 24/7 at unlimited capacity, no dust, etc.
  - h3half 9mo ago
    The vacuum is the problem. It might be cold but has terrible heat transfer properties. The area of radiators it would take to dissipate a data center dwarfs absolutely anything we’ve ever sent to orbit
  - kakacik 9mo ago
    Also solar wind, cosmic rays etc. We don't have perfect shielding for that yet. Cooling would be tricky and has to be completely radiative which is very slow in space. Vacuum is a perfect insulator after all, look how thermos work.
- tim333 9mo ago
  I can't see any reason to put them underwater rather than in a field somewhere. I think the space rationale is you may run out of fields.
  - droopyEyelids 9mo ago
    Placing them underwater means you get free, unlimited cooling. Exactly the opposite of space, where all cooling must happen through radiation, which is expensive/inefficient
yencabulator 9mo ago
Dropping a pod into the sea makes more sense than launching it into space, and Microsoft decided it wasn't worth doing.

zarzavat 9mo ago

> The whole thing makes no sense and is seems like it's just Musk doing financial manipulation again. It's a fig leaf for getting two IPOs in one. There's no sense in analyzing it any further.

ryandvm 9mo ago
Exactly. He can croon about DOGE all day, but the reality is his entire fortune was built on feeding at the trough of government largess. That's why he talks about Mars all the time. He's not stupid enough to think we could actually live there, but damn if he couldn't make a couple trillion skimming off the top of the world's most expensive space program.
- alextingle 9mo ago
  No, I think he is that stupid.
AlexC04 9mo ago
Right, let's not forget that he's selling it to himself in an all stock deal. He could have priced it at eleventy kajillion dollars and it would have had the same meaning. He's basically trading two cypto coins with himself and sending out a press release.

moontear 9mo ago

The experiment may have been successful, but if it was why don't we see underwater datacenters everywhere? It probably is a similar reason why we won't see space datacenters in the near future either. Space has solar energy going for itself. With underwater you don't need to lug a 1420 ton rocket with a datacenter payload to space.

dubcanada 9mo ago
Salt water absolutely murders things, combined with constant movement almost anything will be torn apart in very little time. It's an extremely harsh environment compared to space, which is not anything. If you can get past the solar extremes without earths shield, it's almost perfect for computers. A vacuum, energy source available 24/7 at unlimited capacity, no dust, etc.
- h3half 9mo ago
  The vacuum is the problem. It might be cold but has terrible heat transfer properties. The area of radiators it would take to dissipate a data center dwarfs absolutely anything we’ve ever sent to orbit
- kakacik 9mo ago
  Also solar wind, cosmic rays etc. We don't have perfect shielding for that yet. Cooling would be tricky and has to be completely radiative which is very slow in space. Vacuum is a perfect insulator after all, look how thermos work.
tim333 9mo ago
I can't see any reason to put them underwater rather than in a field somewhere. I think the space rationale is you may run out of fields.
- droopyEyelids 9mo ago
  Placing them underwater means you get free, unlimited cooling. Exactly the opposite of space, where all cooling must happen through radiation, which is expensive/inefficient

yencabulator 9mo ago

Dropping a pod into the sea makes more sense than launching it into space, and Microsoft decided it wasn't worth doing.