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Even with SublimeText, most popular IDE is VSCode, most popular interface design tool Figma, all popular chat platforms and so on are all electron based. If peo

Even with SublimeText, most popular IDE is VSCode, most popular interface design tool Figma, all popular chat platforms and so on are all electron based. If people were desperate for faster platforms they'll be migrating to them.

frumplestlatz 9mo ago
Your mistaking supply-side path dependent outcomes that produce a lack of consumer choice with consumer preference. No consumer prefers slow, bloated, non-native software, but they're stuck with what they can get.
- aurareturn 9mo ago
  There is competition for Figma. Sketch. There's plenty of competition for VSCode too. Don't forget that these Electron apps outcompeted native apps. Figma and VSCode were underdogs to native apps at one point. This is why your supply side argument doesn't make any sense.
  - eviks 9mo ago
    > There's plenty of competition for VSCode too. But there isn't, not if you include all the extensions and remember the price
    - aurareturn 9mo ago
      So an Electron app won. Seems like Electron wasn't a hinderance.
      - eviks 9mo ago
        Sure, you can ignore that it was a hindrance just like you ignored ignored the previous point.
        aurareturn 9mo ago
        Like how you ignored my point too? If it was a hindrance, why did it win? Seems clear to me that Electron's higher RAM usage did not affect adoption. Instead, Electron's ability to write once and ship in any platform is what allowed VSCode to win.
        eviks 9mo ago
        > Like how you ignored my point too? No, differently > If it was a hindrance, why did it win? Because reality is not as primitive as you portray it to be, you can have hindrances and boosts with the overall positive even winning effect? That shouldn't be that hard! > Seems clear to me that Electron's higher RAM usage did not affect adoption. Again, it only seems clear because you ignore all the dirt, including basic things (like here, it's not just ram, is disk use, startup speed, but also like before with competition) and strangely don't consider many factors. > Instead, Electron's ability to write once and ship in any platform is what allowed VSCode to win. So nothing to do with it using the most popular web stack, meaning the largest pool of potential contributors to the editor or extensions??? What about other cross platform frameworks that also allowed that??? (and of course it's not any platform, just 3 desktop ones where VSc runs)
        aurareturn 9mo ago
        So nothing to do with it using the most popular web stack, meaning the largest pool of potential contributors to the editor or extensions??? What about other cross platform frameworks that also allowed that??? (and of course it's not any platform, just 3 desktop ones where VSc runs) I'm not even sure what you're arguing at this point. Are you arguing that Electron helped VSCode win or what? Because Electron being able to use a popular web stack is also a benefit. What is your point?
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    - blackoil 9mo ago
      all the extensions followed popularity and ease of development. So, cart horse.
eviks 9mo ago
> Even with SublimeText, most popular IDE is VSCode What a weird comparison, one is free, another one is a premium app, of course a lot of people prefer some suffering over paying money

frumplestlatz 9mo ago

Your mistaking supply-side path dependent outcomes that produce a lack of consumer choice with consumer preference. No consumer prefers slow, bloated, non-native software, but they're stuck with what they can get.

aurareturn 9mo ago
There is competition for Figma. Sketch. There's plenty of competition for VSCode too. Don't forget that these Electron apps outcompeted native apps. Figma and VSCode were underdogs to native apps at one point. This is why your supply side argument doesn't make any sense.
- eviks 9mo ago
  > There's plenty of competition for VSCode too. But there isn't, not if you include all the extensions and remember the price
  - aurareturn 9mo ago
    So an Electron app won. Seems like Electron wasn't a hinderance.
    - eviks 9mo ago
      Sure, you can ignore that it was a hindrance just like you ignored ignored the previous point.
      - aurareturn 9mo ago
        Like how you ignored my point too? If it was a hindrance, why did it win? Seems clear to me that Electron's higher RAM usage did not affect adoption. Instead, Electron's ability to write once and ship in any platform is what allowed VSCode to win.
        eviks 9mo ago
        > Like how you ignored my point too? No, differently > If it was a hindrance, why did it win? Because reality is not as primitive as you portray it to be, you can have hindrances and boosts with the overall positive even winning effect? That shouldn't be that hard! > Seems clear to me that Electron's higher RAM usage did not affect adoption. Again, it only seems clear because you ignore all the dirt, including basic things (like here, it's not just ram, is disk use, startup speed, but also like before with competition) and strangely don't consider many factors. > Instead, Electron's ability to write once and ship in any platform is what allowed VSCode to win. So nothing to do with it using the most popular web stack, meaning the largest pool of potential contributors to the editor or extensions??? What about other cross platform frameworks that also allowed that??? (and of course it's not any platform, just 3 desktop ones where VSc runs)
        aurareturn 9mo ago
        So nothing to do with it using the most popular web stack, meaning the largest pool of potential contributors to the editor or extensions??? What about other cross platform frameworks that also allowed that??? (and of course it's not any platform, just 3 desktop ones where VSc runs) I'm not even sure what you're arguing at this point. Are you arguing that Electron helped VSCode win or what? Because Electron being able to use a popular web stack is also a benefit. What is your point?
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  - blackoil 9mo ago
    all the extensions followed popularity and ease of development. So, cart horse.

eviks 9mo ago

> Even with SublimeText, most popular IDE is VSCode What a weird comparison, one is free, another one is a premium app, of course a lot of people prefer some suffering over paying money