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> When they wave me to the scanner, I say "I can't raise my arms over my head." IANAL but I would be very cautious about lying to a federal agent, or anyone ac
by runako 9mo ago
> When they wave me to the scanner, I say "I can't raise my arms over my head."
IANAL but I would be very cautious about lying to a federal agent, or anyone acting in a capacity on behalf of a federal agent (this is all of TSA).
- caseysoftware 9mo agoWho said I'm lying?
- runako 9mo agoFair! I was going to go back and edit, but my comment was more for other people who read your comment thinking it was a good idea for them to do (assuming they can raise their hands over their heads).
- caseysoftware 9mo agoSince the TSA cannot force you to prove it - after all, they're not medical personnel to evaluate it and not willing to risk your injury - whether someone lies becomes irrelevant.
- fsckboy 9mo ago"i can't raise my arms over my head" doesn't contain the word "medically". could be religious reasons, or simply personal superstition.
- twoodfin 9mo agoFederal judges just love this kind of language lawyering.
- fsckboy 9mo agoit's legal to say "I can't raise my arms over my head". it is then prohibited to ask people about disabilities, should somebody think to inquire. I was not saying "tell this to a judge", i was telling HN that yall were making assuumptions. (assuumptions makes ass-of-you-and-you)
- sokoloff 9mo agoIf they decide to follow up to make an example of you, they can easily record a video of you until you raise your arms over your head somewhere later in the airport or on the flight. You won’t have a good time proving your case.
- kmoser 9mo agoJust because you can raise your hands over your head doesn't mean it isn't painful. In any case, it's legal to opt-out of the scanners, so why would they care what method you use (really what language you use) to indicate you'd rather get a pat-down than go through the scanners? Either way you're complying with the law.
- jader201 9mo agoIt seemed implied by: > Then I realized I could even skip that. It would make sense that you weren’t injuring yourself prior to realizing this. Again, implied. But agreed, you didn’t say it.
- caminante 9mo agoDon't take the bait. Either they're joking (and should've added an emoji) or more likely, parent is being childish and phrasing points to finding a "clever hack" (i.e., not injured). There's nothing clever about unethical and criminal pro tips.
- Ms-J 9mo agoThey are only making bad assumptions if they said this. Any chance one gets to regain freedom, by any method, take it. In this situation proving someone is lying would be news worthy. You will win in this situation if you stand your ground.
- caminante 9mo agoYep. It's asking for FAFO with civil $$ or even criminal penalties. From what I see, it's low risk, though the parent's smartass approach might get you some punishment. Not worth skipping the detector via lie.