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Anyone else feel the site is getting too self referential? I noticed the lag as well, but is this worthy of a devoted thread taking up space on the first page?
by jwesley 18y ago
Anyone else feel the site is getting too self referential? I noticed the lag as well, but is this worthy of a devoted thread taking up space on the first page?
The recent surge in self referential threads has felt Reddit-esque.
- mattmaroon 18y agoI completely agree. It's been getting that way for too long, and it's half the reason I check the site less frequently lately. I don't need to see a Happy New Year post here. It's cliche and unnecessary. Polls about which text editor people use are the same, because they're just going to be repeated by newbies every few months. My opinion is that self-posts should be on a separate page, by themselves.
- profgubler 18y agoI think the reason you get so many repeated posts from newbies, is that HN does not have a search feature. I think simplly adding a google search to HN would likely cut down on this issue.
- zain 18y agohttp://searchyc.com/ http://searchyc.com/
- rw 18y agoSearchYC is often really slow, at least for me. The page loading times are on the order of tens of seconds. HN needs its own minimalist search engine designed to search for submissions.
- parenthesis 18y agoI do find it very useful, though. I hope the guys behind it will get around to making it faster some time.
- chengmi 18y agoI'm working on a solution for this, but ultimately it comes down to hosting costs. SearchYC is currently hosted on a cheap-ish virtual server whose costs come out of my pocket each month. I can't justify spending more money on this project, given my personal financial constraints. Traffic has been steadily increasing, and quite simply, the system can't handle the load at peak usage. I am, however, working to resolve some of these issues, but it may still be awhile before you see any improvements.
- mhartl 18y agoIndeed. Unfortunately, though I know about searchyc (because I've been around here forever), it's not very discoverable, so newbies haven't a chance. There is not, as far as I can tell, a single link to it in the HN menus. Incidentally, Paul was working on search around this time last year. I wonder what happened to that.
- pmjordan 18y agoOr google with site:news.ycombinator.com in the query.
- deleted 18y ago[deleted]
- pg 18y agoTry clicking on the search icon at the bottom of the page next to the CO2Stats badge.
- wheels 18y agoI did add something to the feature request page to this effect: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=468256 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=468256 Also, for what it's worth, I've been flagging most of these posts as they aren't intellectually stimulating and are almost as meta as this comment thread. :-) (Doesn't bother me in comments, but 4 out of 5 top stories being about Hacker News is dumb.)
- defied 18y agoAgreed. Please make a separate page for the 'Ask HN' posts and keep the main page just for relevant news stories. Right now too many 'Ask HN' posts keep popping up.
- jonursenbach 18y agoThis IS a message board.
- wheels 18y agoA month ago it was a news site. I'd prefer things to go back. Incidentally, I did submit that as a feature request: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=468256 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=468256
- kmt 18y agoHow else are you going to report it publicly so that everyone can share their experience? Also, perhaps there's something to learn from the issue, in other words it's relevant (it's both hacker and news) Otherwise, yes, I agree: this is meta news.
- nihilocrat 18y agoThere's been a sort of strange convergence of a lot of "Ask HN" threads today. I don't really like it, but I honestly think it could be a coincidence, or more likely, the self-referential nature of the orange-related threads have made everyone think about the quality of the karma system and the community as a whole.
- michaelneale 18y agoIn general I agree - but for this specific issue I think it is valid. The performance of late has been terribly, about 40% of the time in my 20 minute window I have to access it are failed responses - so I am not checking back less and less. I am not sure what else we are supposed to to - email pg and complain about its slowness ?? ;)
- pg 18y agoFortunately there's a setting for this: (= nourl-factor* .1) Better now?
- wheels 18y agoPerhaps one tweak -- links back to news.ycombinator.com are weighted the same?
- ajkirwin 18y agoPlease tell me that you seriously didn't just make it so that news articles without a link have 10% of the weight of news articles w/links.
- pg 18y agoYep! They had 60% before. The optimal answer is probably somewhere between the two.