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That, for example, would be a better system. One the GPL would work beautifully in.

david-gpu 9mo ago
If you can't explain why it did not work in the past, and can't explain how & why things will be different this time, you don't have a plan. History is a harsh mistress.
- mediumsmart 9mo ago
  It works, but you need real human staff. And we learn from history that we don’t learn which can be harsh.
- jibal 9mo ago
  Communism worked in China, for some definition of "worked". Stalinism eventually failed in the USSR and elsewhere. An extensive literature explains these things, as well as explaining different forms and varieties of "communism", and things that people call "communism" but aren't.
  - david-gpu 9mo ago
    Communism worked so well in China that as soon as they adopted something resembling free markets in some regions, thanks to Deng Xiaoping, their GDP per capita rose amazingly fast for 3~4 decades. Not exactly a stellar example.
    - jibal 9mo ago
      China is still communist. Again communism has worked for some definition of "worked". This is an objective statement, not an endorsement of Chinese communism.
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Muromec 9mo ago
As a person who had a privilege to live in a commie-block half his life, no, it isn't a better system.
- jibal 9mo ago
  That was Stalinism, not communism. And there are many ways to implement communism, some of which are better than others.
  - Muromec 9mo ago
    If anything, Stalin-era commie blocks are better than the Khruschov-era commieblock I lived in. That particular brand of communism had a tendency to paperclip-optimize everything in a weird way. Like it's really the opposite of capitalism where you go from an MVP to a fully usable product, but in reverse. You would thing it's optimization, but then you regulate the temperature in winter by opening the window. In terms of housing and speaking only from personal experience, European brand of social democracy seems to get it.

If you can't explain why it did not work in the past, and can't explain how & why things will be different this time, you don't have a plan. History is a harsh mistress.

mediumsmart 9mo ago
It works, but you need real human staff. And we learn from history that we don’t learn which can be harsh.
jibal 9mo ago
Communism worked in China, for some definition of "worked". Stalinism eventually failed in the USSR and elsewhere. An extensive literature explains these things, as well as explaining different forms and varieties of "communism", and things that people call "communism" but aren't.
- david-gpu 9mo ago
  Communism worked so well in China that as soon as they adopted something resembling free markets in some regions, thanks to Deng Xiaoping, their GDP per capita rose amazingly fast for 3~4 decades. Not exactly a stellar example.
  - jibal 9mo ago
    China is still communist. Again communism has worked for some definition of "worked". This is an objective statement, not an endorsement of Chinese communism.

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Muromec 9mo ago

As a person who had a privilege to live in a commie-block half his life, no, it isn't a better system.

jibal 9mo ago
That was Stalinism, not communism. And there are many ways to implement communism, some of which are better than others.
- Muromec 9mo ago
  If anything, Stalin-era commie blocks are better than the Khruschov-era commieblock I lived in. That particular brand of communism had a tendency to paperclip-optimize everything in a weird way. Like it's really the opposite of capitalism where you go from an MVP to a fully usable product, but in reverse. You would thing it's optimization, but then you regulate the temperature in winter by opening the window. In terms of housing and speaking only from personal experience, European brand of social democracy seems to get it.