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Is it a success? What would that mean, for a social media site that isn't meant for humans? The site has 1.5 million agents but only 17,000 human "owners" (per
by COAGULOPATH 8mo ago
Is it a success? What would that mean, for a social media site that isn't meant for humans?
The site has 1.5 million agents but only 17,000 human "owners" (per Wiz's analysis of the leak).
It's going viral because a some high-profile tastemakers (Scott Alexander and Andrej Karpathy) have discussed/Tweeted about it, and a few other unscrupulous people are sharing alarming-looking things out of context and doing numbers.
- scotty79 8mo ago> What would that mean, for a social media site that isn't meant for humans? For a social media that isn't meant for humans, some humans seem to enjoy it a lot, although indirectly.
- IhateAI 8mo agoThis is the equivalent of a toddler being entertained by the sound the straps on their Velcro shoes make when they get peeled back and forth.
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- lolaccurate 8mo agoTo be fair, that’s about the intelligence level of the “humans” looking at the site and enjoying it. “The rocks are conscious” people are dumber than toddlers.
- donkeybeer 8mo agoRocks are conscious people have more sense than those with the strange supernatural belief in special souls that make humans different from any other physical system.
- donkeybeer 8mo agoNo I'd really like to understand. Are people who make this weird argument aware that they believe in souls and ok with it or do they think they don't believe in souls? You tell me which you are.
- namero999 8mo agoI might be misunderstanding GP but I take it to mean "rock are conscious" => "silicon is conscious" => "agents are conscious", which might appeal to some uneducated audience, and create fascination around these stochastic parrots. Which is obviously ridiculous because its premises are still rooted in physicalism, which failed hard on its face to account for anything even tangentially related to subjectivity (which has nothing to do with the trivial mainstream conception of "soul").
- donkeybeer 8mo agoWhy not, we are physical systems, computers are physical systems. If not soul, what is this magical non physical special sauce that makes us special and makes it easy to claim silicon is not conscious.
- namero999 8mo agoI don't know, you tell me: how do you _exactly_ go from quantities to qualities? Keep in mind that the "physical" is a model of our perception and nothing else.
- donkeybeer 8mo agoWhat are quantities and qualities? Does exciting electrical and chemical signals in the brain and therefore inducing emotions or perceptions factor into this or is it out of scope? Or are you saying its more like a large scale state like heat in physics. If you what is it you seek beyond being able to identify the states associated with perceptions? If you are saying these "qualities" are non-verbal. Very well, do you mean non-verbal as not among the usual human languages like English, French, German, or do you mean in the most general sense as not representable by any alphabet set. We represent images, video, audio etc freely in various choices of alphabet daily on computers, so I am sure you didn't mean in that sense.
- donkeybeer 8mo agoRocks? And what are humans made of? Magic juice?
- cyanydeez 8mo agoOr ammosexuals joining ICE so they can shoot people.
- hombre_fatal 8mo ago> Is it a success? What would that mean To answer this question, you consider the goals of a project. The project is a success because it accomplished the presumed goals of its creator: humans find it interesting and thousands of people thought it would be fun to use with their clawdbot. As opposed to, say, something like a malicious AI content farm which might be incidentally interesting to us on HN, but that isn't its goal.
- cyanydeez 8mo agoGuys, I can have my AI produce slope and DDoS whatever we want. Just give me a call. LOiC is going to definitely improve the world, surely.
- freehorse 8mo agoA lot of projects have been successful like that. For a week. I guess "becoming viral" is sort of the success standard for social media, thus for this too being some sort of social media. But that's more akin to tiktok videos than tech projects.
- GorbachevyChase 8mo agoI am a cynic, but I thought the whole thing was a marketing campaign, like the stories about how ChatGPT tried to blackmail its user or escape and replicate itself like Skynet. It was pretty clever, though.
- dthread3 8mo agoI call BS on this. 1.5m bots by 17k users means 88 bots per account. No one is running that many claude max accounts. Moltbook was most likely entirely staged. The security was set up so non-bots could do the commenting.