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> Park outside of the city, walk/bike/scooter/mass-transit within Very telling how these arguments are always the most ableist shit you've ever heard and yet p
by Lammy 8mo ago
> Park outside of the city, walk/bike/scooter/mass-transit within
Very telling how these arguments are always the most ableist shit you've ever heard and yet people seem to think they're Very Progressive for making them.
- doubletwoyou 8mo agoCars suck for anybody who doesn’t have all of their faculties in order. Broke a leg, trains were my saviour.
- Lammy 8mo agoCars are great for people who do have all their limbs but lack the stamina to walk long distances, stand for long periods of time, carry large weights, etc.
- snovv_crash 8mo agoDense cities mean you only need to walk short distances, and doing that often enough builds the stamina for long distances.
- Lammy 8mo agoI see you've never had chronic respiratory issues or you would know that's not true.
- wpm 8mo agoSorry the poster didn't put a specific, individualized carve out for all of the disabled groups of people who would obviously be allowed to use whatever method in whatever imagined, hypothetical future, and not kicked to the curb like trash. It is generally more productive to assume charity in the people you are talking to, that of course no one is going to ignore that some people need cars to get around.
- Lammy 8mo agoIf they don't want to be replied to like they believe in absolutes then they should not speak in absolutes. I'm so tired of having to “““assume””” that people would be inclusive of me and my needs when they outright say the opposite. Do better.
- imoverclocked 8mo ago... and yet, a place that is built for humans first instead of cars first would likely do just that.
- shiroiuma 8mo agoSays the ableist who doesn't care about people who are physically or mentally unable to drive a car.
- InitialLastName 8mo agoEnabling and incentivizing able-bodied people to do things other than drive reduces traffic and parking pressure, expanding access for the people who are unable to function without cars (and long-term will, contrary to your concerns, reduce the portion of people whose physical condition prevents them from functioning without a car).
- the_snooze 8mo agoIt's not a bad thing to make places more accessible to children and senior citizens who can't (or shouldn't) be driving.
- hamdingers 8mo agoPeople with disabilities disproportionately rely on transit. Many disabilities preclude driving all together, or require expensive modified vehicles. Before using "ableist" as a cudgel, consider whether you know the first thing about the people you think you're defending.
- Lammy 8mo agoI am the person I'm defending.