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To me, the obvious next step for these companies is to integrate their products with web hosting. At this point, the remaining hurdle for non-developers is depl

To me, the obvious next step for these companies is to integrate their products with web hosting. At this point, the remaining hurdle for non-developers is deploying their creations to the cloud with built-in monetization.

jimmy76615 8mo ago
Just tell it to use your gcp/aws account using the cli, makes it infinitely powerful in terms of deployment. (Also, while I might miss some parts of programming that I have given to AI, I certainly don't miss working with clouds).
- wiether 8mo ago
  > Just tell it to use your gcp/aws account using the cli Please don't. People burning through their tokens allowance on Claude Code is one thing. People having their agent unknowingly provisioning thousands of $ of cloud resources is something completely different.
  - theshrike79 8mo ago
    This is also on the cloud providers for not giving us good tools to manage costs.
- trunnell 8mo ago
  How about, "tell the agent to write instructions for cloud deployment with a cost estimate"
johnpaulkiser 8mo ago
interestingly opencode's first product was an IaC platform... seems to be where this is all going.
falloutx 8mo ago
I dont think these are made for non-devs, Lovable and other which are built for non-devs already provide hosting.
iamnotarobottho 8mo ago
and specifically, the big companies, in a way that people notice. Claude Artifacts, AI Studio, etc. all kinda suck. If you have used Manus or connected your own CF, GCP, AWS, etc. you see how easy it could be if one of the big guys wanted it to be (or could get out of their own way). the big boys probably don't want people who don't know sec deploying on their infra lol.
- halflings 8mo ago
  Deploying from Antigravity is as easy as say connecting the Firebase MCP [1] and asking it "deploy my app to firebase". [1] https://firebase.google.com/docs/ai-assistance/mcp-server https://firebase.google.com/docs/ai-assistance/mcp-server
anthonypasq 8mo ago
Replit already does this
fabianlindfors 8mo ago
We have been working on this, letting any coding agent define infrastructure so we can define it effortlessly: https://specific.dev https://specific.dev. We aren't just targeting non-developers though, we think this is useful to anyone building primarily through coding agents.
Bishonen88 8mo ago
I think deploying can already be done with the help of LLMs using docker and vpc's (e.g. hetzner and co.) rather easily. What I struggle with is the legal overhead of e.g. collecting money for an app/website. I have a semi-finished app which I know I could delploy within a few hours but to collect money, living in Germany is a minefield from what I understand. I don't want my name made public with the app. GmbH (LLCs) cost thousands (?). The whole GDPR minefield, google-font usage scam etc. makes me hold back. Googling/reddit only gives so much insights. If someone has a good reference about starting a SaaS/App from within EU/Germany with all the legalities etc. I'd be super interested!

jimmy76615 8mo ago

Just tell it to use your gcp/aws account using the cli, makes it infinitely powerful in terms of deployment. (Also, while I might miss some parts of programming that I have given to AI, I certainly don't miss working with clouds).

wiether 8mo ago
> Just tell it to use your gcp/aws account using the cli Please don't. People burning through their tokens allowance on Claude Code is one thing. People having their agent unknowingly provisioning thousands of $ of cloud resources is something completely different.
- theshrike79 8mo ago
  This is also on the cloud providers for not giving us good tools to manage costs.
trunnell 8mo ago
How about, "tell the agent to write instructions for cloud deployment with a cost estimate"

johnpaulkiser 8mo ago

interestingly opencode's first product was an IaC platform... seems to be where this is all going.

falloutx 8mo ago

I dont think these are made for non-devs, Lovable and other which are built for non-devs already provide hosting.

iamnotarobottho 8mo ago

and specifically, the big companies, in a way that people notice. Claude Artifacts, AI Studio, etc. all kinda suck. If you have used Manus or connected your own CF, GCP, AWS, etc. you see how easy it could be if one of the big guys wanted it to be (or could get out of their own way). the big boys probably don't want people who don't know sec deploying on their infra lol.

halflings 8mo ago
Deploying from Antigravity is as easy as say connecting the Firebase MCP [1] and asking it "deploy my app to firebase". [1] https://firebase.google.com/docs/ai-assistance/mcp-server https://firebase.google.com/docs/ai-assistance/mcp-server

anthonypasq 8mo ago

Replit already does this

fabianlindfors 8mo ago

We have been working on this, letting any coding agent define infrastructure so we can define it effortlessly: https://specific.dev https://specific.dev. We aren't just targeting non-developers though, we think this is useful to anyone building primarily through coding agents.

Bishonen88 8mo ago

I think deploying can already be done with the help of LLMs using docker and vpc's (e.g. hetzner and co.) rather easily. What I struggle with is the legal overhead of e.g. collecting money for an app/website. I have a semi-finished app which I know I could delploy within a few hours but to collect money, living in Germany is a minefield from what I understand. I don't want my name made public with the app. GmbH (LLCs) cost thousands (?). The whole GDPR minefield, google-font usage scam etc. makes me hold back. Googling/reddit only gives so much insights. If someone has a good reference about starting a SaaS/App from within EU/Germany with all the legalities etc. I'd be super interested!