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Mac only. Again. Apple is great but this is OpenAI devs showing their disconnect from the mainstream. Its complacent at best, contemptuous at worst. SamA or s

Mac only. Again. Apple is great but this is OpenAI devs showing their disconnect from the mainstream. Its complacent at best, contemptuous at worst. SamA or somebody really needs to give the product managers here a kick up the arse.

dkundel 9mo ago
Windows is almost ready. It's already running but we are solving a few more things before the release to make sure it works well.
romainhuet 9mo ago
Hi! Romain here, I work on Codex at OpenAI. We totally hear you. The team actually built the app in Electron specifically so we can support Windows and Linux as well. We shipped macOS first, but Windows is coming very soon. Appreciate you calling this out. Stay tuned!
- embirico 9mo ago
  Only thing i'd add re windows is it's taking us some time to get really solid sandboxing working on Windows, where there are fewer OS-level primitives for it. There's some more at https://developers.openai.com/codex/windows https://developers.openai.com/codex/windows and we'd love help with testing and feedback to make it robust.
- Oras 9mo ago
  Curios why electron not native? Wouldn’t native give better performance and more system integration?
  - ForHackernews 9mo ago
    When you're a trillion dollar company that burns more coal than Bangladesh in order to harness a hyperintelligent Machine God to serve your whims, you don't have the resources to maintain native clients for three separate targets.
  - rolymath 9mo ago
    [flagged]
    - Oras 9mo ago
      Going cross platform doesn’t sound the main reason (or I hope not). For a company that size, is it really hard to hire specialised small team?! It would be a good show case for their Codex too
      - piskov 9mo ago
        They presumably use codex to build this. LLMs output is non-deterministic. Harder to keep the same logic across. Would I love to see swiftui on macos, wpf/winui om windows, whatever qt hell it is on linux? Sure. But it is what it is. I am glad the codex-cli is rust and native. Because claude code and opencode are not: react, solidjs and what have you for a tree layer. — Then again, if codex builds codex, let it cook and port if AI is great. Otherwise, it’s claim chowder
      - ativzzz 9mo ago
        It is hard because this product will likely be obsolete next year based on how quickly AI is changing and evolving. Speed is king when you're on the frontier
        deleted 9mo ago
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        pu_pe 9mo ago
        Yes, exactly. "Just hire a small team and build native apps for another OS" is the recipe for taking a year to deliver instead of a month
- anonymous908213 9mo ago
  Electron? Why can't Codex write, or at least translate, your application to native code instead of using a multi-hundred-mb browser wrapper to display text? Is this the future of software engineering Codex is promising me?
- EastSmith 9mo ago
  Really hoped you'd say Linux next.
  - romainhuet 9mo ago
    We should be able to make it available for Linux very soon as well!
tptacek 9mo ago
If you were going to release a product for developers as soon as it was ready for developers to try, such that you could only launch on one platform and then follow up later with the rest, macOS is the obvious choice. There's nothing contemptuous about that.
- nashashmi 9mo ago
  Check out https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46829029 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46829029
mellosouls 9mo ago
Kudos to the OpenAI reps for responding to my comment and doing so politely. My ire was provoked by this following on from the Windows ChatGPT app that was just a container for the webpage compared to the earlier bells and whistles Mac app. Perceptions are built on those sorts of decisions.
- piskov 9mo ago
  Because of that windows had thinking budget selectors for months before ios and macos (those got this only last week)

dkundel 9mo ago

Windows is almost ready. It's already running but we are solving a few more things before the release to make sure it works well.

romainhuet 9mo ago

Hi! Romain here, I work on Codex at OpenAI. We totally hear you. The team actually built the app in Electron specifically so we can support Windows and Linux as well. We shipped macOS first, but Windows is coming very soon. Appreciate you calling this out. Stay tuned!

embirico 9mo ago
Only thing i'd add re windows is it's taking us some time to get really solid sandboxing working on Windows, where there are fewer OS-level primitives for it. There's some more at https://developers.openai.com/codex/windows https://developers.openai.com/codex/windows and we'd love help with testing and feedback to make it robust.
Oras 9mo ago
Curios why electron not native? Wouldn’t native give better performance and more system integration?
- ForHackernews 9mo ago
  When you're a trillion dollar company that burns more coal than Bangladesh in order to harness a hyperintelligent Machine God to serve your whims, you don't have the resources to maintain native clients for three separate targets.
- rolymath 9mo ago
  [flagged]
  - Oras 9mo ago
    Going cross platform doesn’t sound the main reason (or I hope not). For a company that size, is it really hard to hire specialised small team?! It would be a good show case for their Codex too
    - piskov 9mo ago
      They presumably use codex to build this. LLMs output is non-deterministic. Harder to keep the same logic across. Would I love to see swiftui on macos, wpf/winui om windows, whatever qt hell it is on linux? Sure. But it is what it is. I am glad the codex-cli is rust and native. Because claude code and opencode are not: react, solidjs and what have you for a tree layer. — Then again, if codex builds codex, let it cook and port if AI is great. Otherwise, it’s claim chowder
    - ativzzz 9mo ago
      It is hard because this product will likely be obsolete next year based on how quickly AI is changing and evolving. Speed is king when you're on the frontier
      - deleted 9mo ago
        [deleted]
      - pu_pe 9mo ago
        Yes, exactly. "Just hire a small team and build native apps for another OS" is the recipe for taking a year to deliver instead of a month
anonymous908213 9mo ago
Electron? Why can't Codex write, or at least translate, your application to native code instead of using a multi-hundred-mb browser wrapper to display text? Is this the future of software engineering Codex is promising me?
EastSmith 9mo ago
Really hoped you'd say Linux next.
- romainhuet 9mo ago
  We should be able to make it available for Linux very soon as well!

tptacek 9mo ago

If you were going to release a product for developers as soon as it was ready for developers to try, such that you could only launch on one platform and then follow up later with the rest, macOS is the obvious choice. There's nothing contemptuous about that.

nashashmi 9mo ago
Check out https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46829029 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46829029

mellosouls 9mo ago

Kudos to the OpenAI reps for responding to my comment and doing so politely. My ire was provoked by this following on from the Windows ChatGPT app that was just a container for the webpage compared to the earlier bells and whistles Mac app. Perceptions are built on those sorts of decisions.

piskov 9mo ago
Because of that windows had thinking budget selectors for months before ios and macos (those got this only last week)