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A lot of Trump supporters (and here I include everyone who does not vigorously oppose him in this group) have a very deep belief in America's exceptionalism. To
by martythemaniak 9mo ago
A lot of Trump supporters (and here I include everyone who does not vigorously oppose him in this group) have a very deep belief in America's exceptionalism. To them, it does not matter that the country is run by incompetent people, it does not matter that the rulers are deeply corrupt, immoral, lawless, or abusive. America's economy will run despite all this, America's qualify of life will not suffer because of this, America's position in the world will not suffer for it, because America is unique, exceptional and the centre of the world.
And in the short term they will seem to be right - after all "Liberation Day" tariffs were supposed to destroy the economy and everything is fine! It was just a bunch of boys crying wolf. But the reality is that it took decades to get to this level of integration and it's hard and slow to turn the ship of state around. But people outside the US are very motivated and getting increasingly motivated to turn things around and it'll be essentially a generation-long project to disengage from the US. At some point the US will try to squeeze someone and find out they simply don't have what they once had.
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- cf100clunk 9mo ago> At some point the US will try to squeeze someone and find out they simply don't have what they once had. In the aftermath of the Carney speech in Davos and similar talk around the world, there seems to be a corresponding desire to bring China to the same realization. These are generational hopes, mind you, not knee-jerk, rapidly invoked changes being planned.
- energy123 9mo agoTrump supporters believe that the status quo was intolerable, and interpret Trump's bad qualities as further evidence that he has what it takes to smash that status quo. He's the bully on your side. In an intolerable situation, the nastier and more volatile that bully is, the better. It took me a long time to understand this. Different Trump supports will have different parts of the status quo that they personally despise. The abstraction is universally true, however.
- Throaway1985232 9mo agoTrump was change. It was so long ago now that we forget just how different he was from the candidates like Bush. But people have demanded change for decades now. Trump was smart enough to give them his version of change.
- Throaway1985232 9mo agoTrump is like the guy who breaks his own tv because he can’t beat a video game.