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I can’t believe I’m going to type this, but I miss the Ballmer days. Current leadership has somehow made this company even worse.

Telaneo 8mo ago
It's a bit like Bush. Sure, what happened back then was indeed stupid, but we didn't know how bad it was going to get.
- okanat 8mo ago
  For both cases, the previous bad management was calculatingly evil but there was reason. Now it's pure emotional response and acting like rabid animals that lost every single notion but attacking and harming anything they see as a target.
- eviks 8mo ago
  Not only did we know, but the "stupid" part is one of the major causes of how bad it's getting, so in retrospect the "stupid" looks even worse.
baal80spam 8mo ago
Eh, I am pretty sure that if Ballmer was at the wheel today we would see AI literally everywhere in Windows.
jayflux 8mo ago
What we’re seeing today with Windows is more representative of the times we’re living in rather than because of who’s the CEO. I don’t doubt for a second Ballmer would also be jumping onto the AI hype train if he was still running the show.
sockmeistr 8mo ago
If you haven't seen it before, I'd recommend Dan Luu's blog post about Ballmer: https://danluu.com/ballmer/ https://danluu.com/ballmer/
Markoff 8mo ago
wel, I was fired (after multiple rounds of downsizing our team from ~200 people to 20 people) by the new guy Satya back in the day, so yeah, I prefer Ballmer's approach as well
xethos 8mo ago
Ballmer was kinda the best Microsoft CEO for Windows, IMO. He didn't get the Justice department's attention in either the states or Europe, and he started building alternate revenue streams (XBOX, Windows Phone) without destroying the core product. Sure, MetroUI had no place in Server2012, but that was less egregious than the AI-everything and multiple settings menus Nadella is a marvelous Microsoft CEO for Linux though. Credit where it's due
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pjmlp 8mo ago
I miss him as well in regards to Windows development tooling and roadmap.
falloutx 8mo ago
Ballmer's biggest mistake was staying on during the worst financial crisis and also fumbling the phone business. I know some of the bad decisions can all be traced back to start of Win8 design language which happened under him.
hgs3 8mo ago
I miss the Bill Gates and Steve Jobs days. At least there were positive improvements to Windows and Mac in those days.

Telaneo 8mo ago

It's a bit like Bush. Sure, what happened back then was indeed stupid, but we didn't know how bad it was going to get.

okanat 8mo ago
For both cases, the previous bad management was calculatingly evil but there was reason. Now it's pure emotional response and acting like rabid animals that lost every single notion but attacking and harming anything they see as a target.
eviks 8mo ago
Not only did we know, but the "stupid" part is one of the major causes of how bad it's getting, so in retrospect the "stupid" looks even worse.

baal80spam 8mo ago

Eh, I am pretty sure that if Ballmer was at the wheel today we would see AI literally everywhere in Windows.

jayflux 8mo ago

What we’re seeing today with Windows is more representative of the times we’re living in rather than because of who’s the CEO. I don’t doubt for a second Ballmer would also be jumping onto the AI hype train if he was still running the show.

sockmeistr 8mo ago

If you haven't seen it before, I'd recommend Dan Luu's blog post about Ballmer: https://danluu.com/ballmer/ https://danluu.com/ballmer/

Markoff 8mo ago

wel, I was fired (after multiple rounds of downsizing our team from ~200 people to 20 people) by the new guy Satya back in the day, so yeah, I prefer Ballmer's approach as well

xethos 8mo ago

Ballmer was kinda the best Microsoft CEO for Windows, IMO. He didn't get the Justice department's attention in either the states or Europe, and he started building alternate revenue streams (XBOX, Windows Phone) without destroying the core product. Sure, MetroUI had no place in Server2012, but that was less egregious than the AI-everything and multiple settings menus Nadella is a marvelous Microsoft CEO for Linux though. Credit where it's due

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pjmlp 8mo ago

I miss him as well in regards to Windows development tooling and roadmap.

falloutx 8mo ago

Ballmer's biggest mistake was staying on during the worst financial crisis and also fumbling the phone business. I know some of the bad decisions can all be traced back to start of Win8 design language which happened under him.

hgs3 8mo ago

I miss the Bill Gates and Steve Jobs days. At least there were positive improvements to Windows and Mac in those days.