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That won't happen. This only ends with the collapse of the country.
by direwolf20 9mo ago
That won't happen. This only ends with the collapse of the country.
- etrautmann 9mo agoThat’s not helpful
- SilverElfin 9mo agoMaybe this is not helpful either, but I wonder if that person is correct. The national debt is already bad. With the trillions of new national debt from the Trump administration, and also the destruction of basically every foreign relationship, how will the country manage its finances? I feel like the only way out is to print money and cause extreme inflation. But that also means the death of the US dollar as the global reserve currency.
- direwolf20 9mo agoLook at any other country that went through a similar period. These regimes never voluntarily relinquish power, but they're forced to within 20 years due to some crushing military defeat, economic collapse, assassination, violent revolt, etcetera. It's never ended with a peaceful transition of power and a smooth winding down of the bad stuff.
- HaZeust 9mo agoThe most recent historical example, the USSR, did so. How does that square with your premise and assertion?
- direwolf20 9mo agoThe Berlin wall fell when a hundred thousand people were standing at the wall waiting for it to fall.
- HaZeust 9mo agoWas this reply meant as anything but complementary to my position?
- valianteffort 9mo ago[flagged]
- mfru 9mo agoWell, the rest of the world rejoices when that happens
- Gud 9mo agoNot at all, most of us want to live in peace and prosper. Why the fuck would I want the country most capable to destroy us all to deteriorate?
- wookmaster 9mo agoNo it doesn’t, when the US influence wanes you think that void is just gonna sit there untouched?
- mfru 9mo agoI certainly prefer the dice being rolled again the US has been a net negative so far.
- tencentshill 9mo agoThe US existed just fine before 2003. We can structure any replacement organization to hold it accountable with checks and balances, like every other agency.
- scarecrowbob 9mo agoYeah, but there is quite a gulf between possible and even likely. I can think of very few time seen the state give up extra powers it gives itself in emergencies, and the few places where I see it give up powers are at the behest of industries demanding "de-regulation". Even, say, cannabis decriminalization can be understood (from the stand point of the legislators) as pro-business. So serious question: when has the US given up powers? It'd do my brain a lot of good to have a picture of how this has happened in the past so I can be less cynical in the present. You might site the Church commission, maybe, but that seems to be exactly the kind of thing that is both likely and wholly ineffective beyond a the 5-10 year timescale.
- _DeadFred_ 9mo agoThe end of Reconstruction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_era https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstruction_era
- scarecrowbob 9mo agoFair enough I guess. Not exactly the kind of reassurance I'm looking for, though :D !
- HaZeust 9mo agoI've been thinking and more and more along these lines; this doesn't end, WE end.