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> We had interference somehow. Our remotes were set up to operate at the same frequency. Each remote controlled both devices. That's not "interference" in the

> We had interference somehow. Our remotes were set up to operate at the same frequency. Each remote controlled both devices. That's not "interference" in the technical sense. Interference actually causes signal degradation, distortion, or loss. This is the system "working as expected" technically. It was just set up wrong.

MawKKe 9mo ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-channel_interference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-channel_interference One could argue that "interference" is not entirely a objective technical definition, but also subjective w.r.t quality of the service expected. Also, in this scenario, if the two remotes were to transmit simultaneously, it is possible both boxes could have received some mangled, unregonizable waveform due to the interference.
thaumasiotes 9mo ago
> That's not "interference" in the technical sense. But it is "interference" in the sense that that is what the word "interfere" means.
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- troad 9mo ago
  Interestingly, the -fere in interfere comes from the Latin ferīre, meaning 'to hit', 'to strike', etc. My first guess would have been something like facere/fāre or -fer, but that quickly falls apart on reflection (to do across? between-bearer?). Inter + ferire = to strike one another. Makes sense. Bonus point: the aforementioned -fer ('bearer', like conifer or aquifer) is distantly related to ferīre, as it is to English to bear, Greek phérō ('to carry'), Slavic brat ('to take'), Sanskrit bhárati ('to carry'), etc. I suppose ferīre itself must be the result of semantic drift along the lines of 'to carry/bear' -> 'to bring forth [blows]' -> 'to strike/hit'.
  - thaumasiotes 9mo ago
    > Inter + ferire = to strike one another. Makes sense. I guess, but I don't really think of interfering as a mutual thing. I see interfere more like intervene or interpose, where the subject of the verb inserts himself between two other things. (As, in the example above, "my" neighbor places himself into the middle of the relationship between me and my television.) If I'm interfering with you, it is not necessarily the case that you are also interfering with me. And it certainly couldn't be said that "we are interfering [end of sentence]" in the same way that it could be said "we are fighting". The use of with to mark an indirect object does tend to suggest that the sense of the verb was more mutual at an earlier point, though.

MawKKe 9mo ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-channel_interference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-channel_interference One could argue that "interference" is not entirely a objective technical definition, but also subjective w.r.t quality of the service expected. Also, in this scenario, if the two remotes were to transmit simultaneously, it is possible both boxes could have received some mangled, unregonizable waveform due to the interference.

thaumasiotes 9mo ago

> That's not "interference" in the technical sense. But it is "interference" in the sense that that is what the word "interfere" means.

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troad 9mo ago
Interestingly, the -fere in interfere comes from the Latin ferīre, meaning 'to hit', 'to strike', etc. My first guess would have been something like facere/fāre or -fer, but that quickly falls apart on reflection (to do across? between-bearer?). Inter + ferire = to strike one another. Makes sense. Bonus point: the aforementioned -fer ('bearer', like conifer or aquifer) is distantly related to ferīre, as it is to English to bear, Greek phérō ('to carry'), Slavic brat ('to take'), Sanskrit bhárati ('to carry'), etc. I suppose ferīre itself must be the result of semantic drift along the lines of 'to carry/bear' -> 'to bring forth [blows]' -> 'to strike/hit'.
- thaumasiotes 9mo ago
  > Inter + ferire = to strike one another. Makes sense. I guess, but I don't really think of interfering as a mutual thing. I see interfere more like intervene or interpose, where the subject of the verb inserts himself between two other things. (As, in the example above, "my" neighbor places himself into the middle of the relationship between me and my television.) If I'm interfering with you, it is not necessarily the case that you are also interfering with me. And it certainly couldn't be said that "we are interfering [end of sentence]" in the same way that it could be said "we are fighting". The use of with to mark an indirect object does tend to suggest that the sense of the verb was more mutual at an earlier point, though.