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This should be a war crime...

tdeck 8mo ago
War crimes are "for Africa and thugs like Putin".
belorn 8mo ago
Given the period of 2010-2012, the president at the time was Barack Obama. It does not seem realistic that people would accept opening a criminal case.
- goku12 8mo ago
  Why does it matter if it was Obama or Bush in power? Sure, their politics influence the nation's foreign policies. But domestic partisan politics is largely irrelevant to the international partners. To the foreign nationals affected by it, you're just USA either way. I mentioned just the other day, the problem with anti-intellectualism in the US and how it's fed by these sorts of egregious meddling by the administration. There are much less educated and affluent countries that are nowhere near as anti-science as the US. Yet unfortunately, the US exports it abroad too. I explicitly referred the same Pakistani case as an example of that. I'm all for Osama's elimination, but they jeopardized the entire humanity's future by misusing the vaccination program for it. Despite a century of this nonsense (remember the radium girls?), neither political party cares enough to not pervert science in the interests of humanity. Smallpox and Polio were horrible diseases that caused untold miseries. Even the remote tribes of Pakistan knew their dangers well enough to participate in their elimination, until the US pulled off this dirty stunt. This is a deeply ingrained toxic culture that was reinforced by both parties over the decade. This should be a war crime irrespective of party allegiances.
  - throw20251220 8mo ago
    > Why does it matter if it was Obama or Bush in power? How can you open a war crime case against a guy who already got a Peace Nobel Prize? And what war crime? Was there a war? Maybe some special military operation against Bin Laden.
    - aleph_minus_one 8mo ago
      > How can you open a war crime case against a guy who already got a Peace Nobel Prize? Henry Kissinger (1973 Nobel Peace Prize together with Lê Đức Thọ) can be considered a war criminal: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial_of_Henry_Kissinger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial_of_Henry_Kissinger Yasser Arafat (1994 Nobel Peace Prize together with Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres) was also very likely a war criminal.
      - throw20251220 8mo ago
        Should’ve could’ve. If the grandma had a moustache she would be the grandpa.
  - aleph_minus_one 8mo ago
    > Why does it matter if it was Obama or Bush in power? If Bush was in Power, of course the accusation would have to made against Bush. So, of course, the accusation has to be made against the president that was in charge at the time. Dark skin color does not give him a "Get Out of Jail Free Card".
- sigwinch 8mo ago
  Are you kidding? A way to smear Obama and portray him as disrespectful to non-whites? The only reason it’s not on Fox is that it reminds Americans that we’ve only had one victory in the War on Terror and the Republican Party contributed nothing positive.
- atoav 8mo ago
  I would accept it if it even if it was done by Ghandi.
  - trueismywork 8mo ago
    Who is Ghandi?
    - et-al 8mo ago
      It's probably a mispelling of a French domain registrar known for its nonviolent resistance.
  - belorn 8mo ago
    It is approaches like that which gives some hope to the future. War crimes are indeed something which should never be allowed or overlooked. Being a political leader doesn't make people immune to criticism, but rather should be someone held to a higher expectation.
michaelsshaw 8mo ago
International law does not apply to the leaders of the western hegemony. It is merely a tool used to oppress poor nations even further. This fact only further proves one thing: the CIA is a terrorist organization and the state behind it is responsible for some of the most disgusting things this planet has ever seen.

tdeck 8mo ago

War crimes are "for Africa and thugs like Putin".

Given the period of 2010-2012, the president at the time was Barack Obama. It does not seem realistic that people would accept opening a criminal case.

goku12 8mo ago
Why does it matter if it was Obama or Bush in power? Sure, their politics influence the nation's foreign policies. But domestic partisan politics is largely irrelevant to the international partners. To the foreign nationals affected by it, you're just USA either way. I mentioned just the other day, the problem with anti-intellectualism in the US and how it's fed by these sorts of egregious meddling by the administration. There are much less educated and affluent countries that are nowhere near as anti-science as the US. Yet unfortunately, the US exports it abroad too. I explicitly referred the same Pakistani case as an example of that. I'm all for Osama's elimination, but they jeopardized the entire humanity's future by misusing the vaccination program for it. Despite a century of this nonsense (remember the radium girls?), neither political party cares enough to not pervert science in the interests of humanity. Smallpox and Polio were horrible diseases that caused untold miseries. Even the remote tribes of Pakistan knew their dangers well enough to participate in their elimination, until the US pulled off this dirty stunt. This is a deeply ingrained toxic culture that was reinforced by both parties over the decade. This should be a war crime irrespective of party allegiances.
- throw20251220 8mo ago
  > Why does it matter if it was Obama or Bush in power? How can you open a war crime case against a guy who already got a Peace Nobel Prize? And what war crime? Was there a war? Maybe some special military operation against Bin Laden.
  - aleph_minus_one 8mo ago
    > How can you open a war crime case against a guy who already got a Peace Nobel Prize? Henry Kissinger (1973 Nobel Peace Prize together with Lê Đức Thọ) can be considered a war criminal: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial_of_Henry_Kissinger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial_of_Henry_Kissinger Yasser Arafat (1994 Nobel Peace Prize together with Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres) was also very likely a war criminal.
    - throw20251220 8mo ago
      Should’ve could’ve. If the grandma had a moustache she would be the grandpa.
- aleph_minus_one 8mo ago
  > Why does it matter if it was Obama or Bush in power? If Bush was in Power, of course the accusation would have to made against Bush. So, of course, the accusation has to be made against the president that was in charge at the time. Dark skin color does not give him a "Get Out of Jail Free Card".
sigwinch 8mo ago
Are you kidding? A way to smear Obama and portray him as disrespectful to non-whites? The only reason it’s not on Fox is that it reminds Americans that we’ve only had one victory in the War on Terror and the Republican Party contributed nothing positive.
atoav 8mo ago
I would accept it if it even if it was done by Ghandi.
- trueismywork 8mo ago
  Who is Ghandi?
  - et-al 8mo ago
    It's probably a mispelling of a French domain registrar known for its nonviolent resistance.
- belorn 8mo ago
  It is approaches like that which gives some hope to the future. War crimes are indeed something which should never be allowed or overlooked. Being a political leader doesn't make people immune to criticism, but rather should be someone held to a higher expectation.

michaelsshaw 8mo ago

International law does not apply to the leaders of the western hegemony. It is merely a tool used to oppress poor nations even further. This fact only further proves one thing: the CIA is a terrorist organization and the state behind it is responsible for some of the most disgusting things this planet has ever seen.