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What poll have you seen that asks people to approve of everything any president does? I live in a very red part of the country, and in a very red, rural area t
by _heimdall 9mo ago
What poll have you seen that asks people to approve of everything any president does?
I live in a very red part of the country, and in a very red, rural area that voted ~90% for Trump. I don't know anyone that is okay with everything he has done. Some take issue with Venezuela, some with the handling of the Epstein files or the federal budget. Some don't like sabre rattling over Greenland.
Most people I know that do vote Republican are one issue voters. At least here people voted because they always vote republican, support the second amendment, think the republicans actually want a balanced budget, or just hated Clinton/Biden. It isn't about supporting whatever Trump does, though I'm sure some small percentage does.
People regardless of party or region don't think critically often enough and can't set aside their own personal beliefs. We've made our country bipolar and we're seeing the repercussions. It isn't a problem with any one party or person, and the answer isn't to tear down the fundamentals of our system. We need to actually get back to the fundamentals because of late both parties have been going the way of socialism and authoritarianism.
- raw_anon_1111 9mo agoTrump’s approval rating is still around 40% https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker https://www.economist.com/interactive/trump-approval-tracker
- _heimdall 9mo ago> 40% of the people still approve of everything Trump is doing. Someone saying to a pollster that they approve of Trump is very different from them saying they approve of everything he is doing.
- raw_anon_1111 9mo ago59% say ICE is too aggressive - meaning that 41% approve https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-59-voters-say-ice-too-aggressive-up-10-points-since-julyIt https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-59-voters-say...
- Forgeties79 9mo agoNo it means 41% don’t necessarily think they’re too aggressive.
- raw_anon_1111 9mo agoIsn’t that agreeing with him? HN loves to make excuses for the voters. If killing someone isn’t too aggressive what is? Killing and eating his kids? They think that is fine
- Forgeties79 9mo agoLet me be very clear: I think ICE is wildly out of bounds and killing/terrorizing people. I do not support them. I do not support the republican party or Trump. Quite the opposite. All of that being said: that is how polling works. You are inferring too far beyond the actual question posed. For instance, somebody could think they are acting too aggressively, but completely agree with the final outcome/objective. Or somebody could disagree with the objective, but think that they’re not acting too aggressively because perhaps they’re sympathetic to LEO’s having to make snap judgments in the field (an excuse I do not agree with but many do). I think the general sentiment that the question tells you something about how people support or don’t support ICE is valid, but the exact number and statement you’re throwing out cannot be assumed and is likely wrong, even if it’s maybe close. And that’s not even getting into how different people will have different ideas of what “too aggressive” even means. 59% think they’re being too aggressive, assuming the polling is decent quality, means you can credibly say 41% do not think ICE is being too aggressive.
- raw_anon_1111 9mo agoAgain so it’s not okay they are shooting people. But it’s fine if the outcome is that they are dead?
- Forgeties79 9mo agoHow on earth are you getting that from what I’m saying?