3 ms·

You mean your standard consulting company that works on a project basis? This isn’t anything new. I worked for a startup founded by two non technical brothers

You mean your standard consulting company that works on a project basis? This isn’t anything new. I worked for a startup founded by two non technical brothers who brought in an outside consulting company to do all of the work and then they brought in a CTO to bring it in house and I was one of his first technical hires. You’ll be competing with cheap outsourced developers where only the tech leads and project managers are paid American wages. You are basically doing staff augmentation which is the fifth level of hell

hahahahhaah 9mo ago
Sounds like he is talking about a startup per-se where say 10 devs get 10% ea?
- raw_anon_1111 9mo ago
  No matter how you frame it, you are still competing with the “Americans who are the leads and people from India doing the work for less than Americans” companies.
  - hahahahhaah 9mo ago
    Google, Facebook, Instagram, Stripe, Whatsapp, Coinbase, PIntrest, Amazon, Dropbox did well did they have a couple of team leads in US and rest in India at the start? (To be clear: nothing against Indian talent. My point is you don't need to compete with global outsourcing unless the value proposition isn't high so you need cheaper devs)
    - raw_anon_1111 9mo ago
      They aren’t hiring the cheapest developers who can barely get into one of the WITCH companies where they are competing for contracts by cheap American companies. You are always competing with global talent - especially if they will work for 25% of your cost and these days can just be LLM supervisors. My biggest issue with Indian developers in India that were contractors (not people in the US) is they never take the initiative and “work to rule” and will not speak up if they think there is a better way. I don’t see that in my current LatAm coworkers. They have no issues speaking up, taking initiative, dealing with ambiguous requirements, etc.

hahahahhaah 9mo ago

Sounds like he is talking about a startup per-se where say 10 devs get 10% ea?

raw_anon_1111 9mo ago
No matter how you frame it, you are still competing with the “Americans who are the leads and people from India doing the work for less than Americans” companies.
- hahahahhaah 9mo ago
  Google, Facebook, Instagram, Stripe, Whatsapp, Coinbase, PIntrest, Amazon, Dropbox did well did they have a couple of team leads in US and rest in India at the start? (To be clear: nothing against Indian talent. My point is you don't need to compete with global outsourcing unless the value proposition isn't high so you need cheaper devs)
  - raw_anon_1111 9mo ago
    They aren’t hiring the cheapest developers who can barely get into one of the WITCH companies where they are competing for contracts by cheap American companies. You are always competing with global talent - especially if they will work for 25% of your cost and these days can just be LLM supervisors. My biggest issue with Indian developers in India that were contractors (not people in the US) is they never take the initiative and “work to rule” and will not speak up if they think there is a better way. I don’t see that in my current LatAm coworkers. They have no issues speaking up, taking initiative, dealing with ambiguous requirements, etc.