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At first I thought "desktop shell" was supposed to be compositor, but that's not the case, a wayland compositor like sway is a requirement. I've been using sway

by dfc 8mo ago

At first I thought "desktop shell" was supposed to be compositor, but that's not the case, a wayland compositor like sway is a requirement. I've been using sway for years I have no idea what a "shell" is? It's somewhere in between a desktop environment and a theme?

dmit 8mo ago
Yes. It occupies the spot in the Sway tutorials that recommend you "waybar, fuzzel, tofi, [etc]" to fill out the necessities. Noctalia, DMS, and other Quickshell projects cover that void.
sbinnee 8mo ago
I have no idea what shell means either! Isn’t it called ricing to customize desktop environment? Since when do people started calling it shell?
- Valodim 8mo ago
  I'm not sure about Linux, but on Windows it's been called that since forever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_shell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_shell
  - mxmilkiib 8mo ago
    I wonder where where LiteStep is at used it (and sometimes SharpE) for a number of years until about idk 20y ago http://litestep.net http://litestep.net https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiteStep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiteStep https://reddit.com/r/LiteStep/comments/1fjnj9y/litestep_revival_megathread https://reddit.com/r/LiteStep/comments/1fjnj9y/litestep_revi... https://sharpe.sourceforge.net https://sharpe.sourceforge.net
tvshtr 8mo ago
Noctalia (it's quickshell theme/env underneath) is to compositor as KDE Plasma is to Kwin. Coincidentally both arr built on QtQuick.
ankurdhama 8mo ago
Usually a Wayland compositor just do very few things like compose different program windows to your display output and feed the focused window input events. Desktop elements like wallpaper, panel/dock etc are considered part of "desktop shell". Gnome have mutter as compositor and gnome-shell as shell (although they are same process). KDE has Kwin as compositor and plasma-shell as desktop shell.

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At first I thought "desktop shell" was supposed to be compositor, but that's not the case, a wayland compositor like sway is a requirement. I've been using sway

by dfc 8mo ago

dmit 8mo ago
Yes. It occupies the spot in the Sway tutorials that recommend you "waybar, fuzzel, tofi, [etc]" to fill out the necessities. Noctalia, DMS, and other Quickshell projects cover that void.
sbinnee 8mo ago
I have no idea what shell means either! Isn’t it called ricing to customize desktop environment? Since when do people started calling it shell?
- Valodim 8mo ago
  I'm not sure about Linux, but on Windows it's been called that since forever https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_shell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_shell
  - mxmilkiib 8mo ago
    I wonder where where LiteStep is at used it (and sometimes SharpE) for a number of years until about idk 20y ago http://litestep.net http://litestep.net https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiteStep https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiteStep https://reddit.com/r/LiteStep/comments/1fjnj9y/litestep_revival_megathread https://reddit.com/r/LiteStep/comments/1fjnj9y/litestep_revi... https://sharpe.sourceforge.net https://sharpe.sourceforge.net
tvshtr 8mo ago
Noctalia (it's quickshell theme/env underneath) is to compositor as KDE Plasma is to Kwin. Coincidentally both arr built on QtQuick.
ankurdhama 8mo ago
Usually a Wayland compositor just do very few things like compose different program windows to your display output and feed the focused window input events. Desktop elements like wallpaper, panel/dock etc are considered part of "desktop shell". Gnome have mutter as compositor and gnome-shell as shell (although they are same process). KDE has Kwin as compositor and plasma-shell as desktop shell.