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Reddit is plenty addictive in my experience, and I've heard the same from other people ranging from high school teachers to tradespeople.

tedmiston 8mo ago
i think most users need more screen blocking control than they get out of the box on iOS. tools like one sec [1] have been invaluable for me. [1]: https://one-sec.app/ https://one-sec.app/
- baq 8mo ago
  Yes, but most importantly I need to manage my children’s devices; it cannot be opt in and it mustn’t be possible to disable without me approving. Screen time is too easy for kids to work around as is. I also need in-app content type filtering (eg. no shorts, no music videos on music streaming apps) and literally no one is providing such options, not to mention it should be managed in screen time, too. Parental controls are a complete shit show in iOS and the app ecosystem.
  - mike_hearn 8mo ago
    So buy an Android: https://families.google/intl/my/familylink/ https://families.google/intl/my/familylink/
    - Abekkus 8mo ago
      family link is not enough, try disabling gemini and news access with it, and you cannot block shorts
      - mike_hearn 8mo ago
        You will always be able to come up with some unique combination of features you want from software that it doesn't have yet. Note that none of these social media bans would block Gemini, and most of them don't consider YouTube to be social media. You are still far ahead with Family Link, and Android is flexible enough that if there's actually real demand for these things you can implement solutions and sell them to other parents.
  - tedmiston 8mo ago
    i do not have children to provide a meningful reply to the points raised, though i hope others do.
whatever1 8mo ago
Hackernews is also addictive. Fortnine is addictive. World of Warcraft is addictive. NFL is addictive. Addiction does not strike to me as a unique trait of the social media. The echo chamber bubble on the other hand, seems quite unique.
- XorNot 8mo ago
  Hacker News has plenty of its own echo chamber, no different to any other social environment.
  - hackyhacky 8mo ago
    > Hacker News has plenty of its own echo chamber, no different to any other social environment. Sure, but fwiw the HN echo chamber is organic. People choose to interact with people who have similar opinions, as they have since forever. In contrast, the echo chamber on HN, Tiktok, FB, etc is architected specifically to drive engagement. You are shown more of the content that you react to, so that you won't leave.
    - edoceo 8mo ago
      Typo on second mention of HN?
    - mike_hearn 8mo ago
      It's not at all organic. There's lots of flag killing and shadow banning on HN to suppress opinions, mostly anything that hints of right wing stuff. It mostly works, too.
      - hackyhacky 8mo ago
        No, they block political stuff because this is not the place for political stuff. Stop playing the victim.
  - quotemstr 8mo ago
    Nah. Hacker News has a diversity of views! In this very thread, you can see a robust debate between 1) people who want to ban kids from social media, and 2) people who want to ban everyone from social media. See? HN captures the full range of legitimate perspectives on technology.

tedmiston 8mo ago

i think most users need more screen blocking control than they get out of the box on iOS. tools like one sec [1] have been invaluable for me. [1]: https://one-sec.app/ https://one-sec.app/

baq 8mo ago
Yes, but most importantly I need to manage my children’s devices; it cannot be opt in and it mustn’t be possible to disable without me approving. Screen time is too easy for kids to work around as is. I also need in-app content type filtering (eg. no shorts, no music videos on music streaming apps) and literally no one is providing such options, not to mention it should be managed in screen time, too. Parental controls are a complete shit show in iOS and the app ecosystem.
- mike_hearn 8mo ago
  So buy an Android: https://families.google/intl/my/familylink/ https://families.google/intl/my/familylink/
  - Abekkus 8mo ago
    family link is not enough, try disabling gemini and news access with it, and you cannot block shorts
    - mike_hearn 8mo ago
      You will always be able to come up with some unique combination of features you want from software that it doesn't have yet. Note that none of these social media bans would block Gemini, and most of them don't consider YouTube to be social media. You are still far ahead with Family Link, and Android is flexible enough that if there's actually real demand for these things you can implement solutions and sell them to other parents.
- tedmiston 8mo ago
  i do not have children to provide a meningful reply to the points raised, though i hope others do.

whatever1 8mo ago

Hackernews is also addictive. Fortnine is addictive. World of Warcraft is addictive. NFL is addictive. Addiction does not strike to me as a unique trait of the social media. The echo chamber bubble on the other hand, seems quite unique.

XorNot 8mo ago
Hacker News has plenty of its own echo chamber, no different to any other social environment.
- hackyhacky 8mo ago
  > Hacker News has plenty of its own echo chamber, no different to any other social environment. Sure, but fwiw the HN echo chamber is organic. People choose to interact with people who have similar opinions, as they have since forever. In contrast, the echo chamber on HN, Tiktok, FB, etc is architected specifically to drive engagement. You are shown more of the content that you react to, so that you won't leave.
  - edoceo 8mo ago
    Typo on second mention of HN?
  - mike_hearn 8mo ago
    It's not at all organic. There's lots of flag killing and shadow banning on HN to suppress opinions, mostly anything that hints of right wing stuff. It mostly works, too.
    - hackyhacky 8mo ago
      No, they block political stuff because this is not the place for political stuff. Stop playing the victim.
- quotemstr 8mo ago
  Nah. Hacker News has a diversity of views! In this very thread, you can see a robust debate between 1) people who want to ban kids from social media, and 2) people who want to ban everyone from social media. See? HN captures the full range of legitimate perspectives on technology.