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I trust Telegram more: Putin never had any problems with Whatsapp, only with Telegram.

• maqp 8mo ago
  No end-to-end encryption by default. WhatsApp has. No end-to-end encryption for groups. WhatsApp has. No end-to-end encryption on desktop. WhatsApp has. No break-in key-recovery. WhatsApp has. Inferring Telegram's security from public statements of *checks notes* former KGB officer and FSB director -- agencies that wrote majority of the literature in maskirovka, isn't exactly reliable, wouldn't you agree?
  • cft 8mo ago
    Telegram has private chats. I don't pay attention to his words, indeed. Way before the Ukrainian war, Russia had a massive campaign trying to block Telegram and they failed on a technical level. This has never happened with WhatsApp.
    • maqp 8mo ago
      Yeah it's really hard to block tally count of five IPs. https://telegramplayground.github.io/pyrogram/faq/what-are-the-ip-addresses-of-telegram-data-centers.html https://telegramplayground.github.io/pyrogram/faq/what-are-t... No wonder the great Russian firewall is struggling to keep TG at bay. Wake up.
      • cft 8mo ago
        >Yeah it's really hard to block tally count of five IPs. They blocked 16m IPs, to the extent that it started affecting the entire Russian's internet stability, and Telegram was still available there: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/17/russia-blocks-millions-of-ip-addresses-in-battle-against-telegram-app https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/17/russia-blocks-... >Wake up Is that a demand? A slogan? I wonder how much your own wokeness affects your ability to absorb facts.
        • maqp 8mo ago
          The server IPs are hard-coded into the Telegram client's source: https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/blob/d7deedfa33ddfa51c72a5634d1f07ad2d7ad58a4/TMessagesProj/jni/tgnet/ConnectionsManager.cpp#L1814 https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram/blob/d7deedfa33ddfa51c72a5... You know you can just run $ git clone https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram.git https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram.git && cd Telegram && FILE="TMessagesProj/jni/tgnet/ConnectionsManager.cpp" && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'149.154.175.50' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'2001:b28:f23d:f001:0000:0000:0000:000a' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'149.154.167.51' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'95.161.76.100' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'2001:67c:4e8:f002:0000:0000:0000:000a' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'149.154.175.100' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'2001:b28:f23d:f003:0000:0000:0000:000a' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'149.154.167.91' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'2001:67c:4e8:f004:0000:0000:0000:000a' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'149.154.171.5' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 && git log --reverse --format='%ad %h %s' --date=short -S'2001:b28:f23f:f005:0000:0000:0000:000a' -- "$FILE" | head -n 1 To get when the IPs first appeared, right? :D 2015-09-24 6bb7547f5 Update to 3.2.2 2015-09-24 6bb7547f5 Update to 3.2.2 2015-09-24 6bb7547f5 Update to 3.2.2 2020-06-04 dceccae0b Update to 6.2.0 (1984) 2015-09-24 6bb7547f5 Update to 3.2.2 2015-09-24 6bb7547f5 Update to 3.2.2 2015-09-24 6bb7547f5 Update to 3.2.2 2015-09-24 6bb7547f5 Update to 3.2.2 2015-09-24 6bb7547f5 Update to 3.2.2 2015-09-24 6bb7547f5 Update to 3.2.2 2015-09-24 6bb7547f5 Update to 3.2.2 They've been the same IP addresses for ELEVEN years, and they precede the article you linked by THREE YEARS. They're not playing the catch-up with Russian government. Either Russian government is completely incompetent in that they're blocking 3,000,000 IP addresses and failing, or they are LYING about attempting to block it, which would indicate Telegram is a Russian op.