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Nobody is building anything worthwhile with these things. Basically every piece of software being built is now being built, in some part, with AI, so that is p
by spicyusername 9mo ago
Nobody is building anything worthwhile with these things.
Basically every piece of software being built is now being built, in some part, with AI, so that is patently false.
Nobody who is building anything worthwhile is hooking their LLM up to moltbook, perhaps.
- bakugo 9mo ago> Basically every piece of software being built is now being built, in some part, with AI, so that is patently false. Yep, just like a few years ago, all fintech being built was being built on top of crypto and NFTs. This is clearly the future and absolutely NOT a bubble.
- spicyusername 9mo agoI mean... even if you're an LLM skeptic, they are already default tools in a software engineer's toolbox, so at a minimum software engineering will have been transformed, even if AI enthusiasm cools. The fact to that there is so much value already being derived is a pretty big difference from crypto which never generated any value at all.
- danielbln 9mo agoThere are so many things to criticize about the current state of gen AI, but if someone tells me with a straight face that there is zero value in LLMs and it's all like crypto I will just dismiss their opinion wholesale because if they are this wrong and lazy about something that is easily refutable, their other opinions aren't worth much either.
- DiogenesKynikos 9mo agoMy own coding productivity has increased by a few times by using LLMs. Is that just a bubble?
- bakugo 9mo agoYour productivity has not increased by a few times unless you're measuring purely by lines of code written, which has been firmly established over the decades as a largely meaningless metric.
- DiogenesKynikos 9mo agoI'm measuring by the amount of time it takes me to write a piece of code that does something I want, like make a plot or calculate some quantity of interest. Or even the fact that I was able to start coding in an entirely new ML framework right away without reading any documentation beforehand. I'm puzzled by the denialism about AI-driven productivity gains in coding. They're blindingly obvious to anyone using AI to code nowadays.
- bakugo 9mo ago> like make a plot or calculate some quantity of interest. This great comment I saw on another post earlier feels relevant: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46850233 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46850233
- DiogenesKynikos 9mo agoI'm not adding a+b. It will be more like, "Calculate the following nontrivial physical quantity from this catalog of measurements, reproject the measurements to this coordinate system, calculate the average and standard deviation using this pixelization scheme, estimate the power spectrum, and then make the following 3 plots." This would have taken me an hour previously. It now takes a few minutes at most. I feel like many AI skeptics are disconnected from reality at this point.
- michaelcampbell 9mo agoIt feels like our (US) political system; people in their camps refuse to believe any data proposing a benefit of the "other" camp. For me, the rise of the TUI agents, emerging ways of working (mostly SDD, and how to manage context well), and the most recent releases of models have pushed me past a threshold, where I now see value in it.
- michaelcampbell 9mo ago> all fintech being built was being built on top of crypto and NFTs This seems WAY less true than the assertion of software being built with LLM help. (Source: Was in FinTech.) Like, to the point of being a willful false equivalence.