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> No more AI thought pieces until you tell us what you build! Absolutely agree with this, the ratio of talk to output is insane, especially when the talk is al

> No more AI thought pieces until you tell us what you build! Absolutely agree with this, the ratio of talk to output is insane, especially when the talk is all about how much better output is. So far the only example I've seen is Claude Code which is mired in its own technical problems and is literally built by an AI company. > Write your own code without assistance on whatever interval makes sense to you, otherwise you'll atrophy those muscles This is the one thing that concerns me, for the same reason as "AI writes the code, humans review it" does. The fact of the matter is, most people will get lazy and complacent pretty quickly, and the depth of which they review the code/ the frequency they "go it alone" will get less and less until eventually it just stops happening. We all (most of us anyway) do it, its just part of being human, for the same reason that thousands of people start going to the gym in January and stop by March. Arguably, AI coding was at its best when it was pretty bad, because you HAD to review it frequently and there were immediate incentives to just take the keyboard and do it yourself sometimes. Now, we still have some serious faults, they're just not as immediate, which will lead to complacency for a lot of people. Maybe one day AI will be able to reliably write the 100% of the code without review. The worry is that we stop paying attention first, which all in all looks quite likely

g8oz 8mo ago
But simonw said that dark factories are the way forward /s
- malfist 8mo ago
  Lights out manufacturing is always the boogieman that's being built or coming tomorrow. Never seems to happen though. The Wikipedia article for it only cites two such factories, and at least one of them requires humans still and isn't fully lights out.
  - kranner 8mo ago
    It's a reference to this article about entirely automated software production (eventually and hypothetical): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46739117 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46739117
Kerrick 8mo ago
> Absolutely agree with this, the ratio of talk to output is insane, especially when the talk is all about how much better output is. Those of us building are having so much fun we aren't slowing down to write think pieces. I don't mean this flippantly. I'm a blogger. I love writing! But since a brief post on December 22 I haven't blogged because I have been too busy implementing incredible amounts of software with AI. Since you'll want receipts, here they are: - https://git.sr.ht/~kerrick/ratatui_ruby/tree/trunk/item/README.rdoc https://git.sr.ht/~kerrick/ratatui_ruby/tree/trunk/item/READ... - https://git.sr.ht/~kerrick/rooibos/tree/trunk/item/README.rdoc https://git.sr.ht/~kerrick/rooibos/tree/trunk/item/README.rd... - https://git.sr.ht/~kerrick/tokra/tree https://git.sr.ht/~kerrick/tokra/tree Between Christmas and New Year's Day I was on vacation, so I had plenty of time. Since then, it's only been nights & weekends (and some early mornings and lunch breaks).
- dingnuts 8mo ago
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- yojat661 8mo ago
  Are these software popular? Are these maintainable long term? Are you getting feedback from users?
  - Kerrick 8mo ago
    RatatuiRuby is pretty new still: its beta launch was Jan 20. Octobox's TUI is built on it [0], and Sidekiq is using it to build theirs [1]. I believe they'll be maintainable long-term, as they've got extensive tests and documentation, and I built a theory of the program [2] on the Ruby side of it as I reviewed and guided the agent's work. I am getting feedback from users, the largest of which drove the creation of (and iteration upon) Rooibos. As a rendering library, RatatuiRuby doesn't do much to guide the design or architecture of an application. Rooibos is an MVU/TEA framework [3] to do exactly that. Tokra is basically a tech demo at this stage, [4] so (hopefully) no users yet. [0]: https://ruby.social/@andrewnez@mastodon.social/115935182284375913 https://ruby.social/@andrewnez@mastodon.social/1159351822843... [1]: https://ruby.social/@getajobmike/115940044592981164 https://ruby.social/@getajobmike/115940044592981164 [2]: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0165607485900328 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/016560... [3]: https://guide.elm-lang.org/architecture/ https://guide.elm-lang.org/architecture/ [4]: https://ruby.social/@kerrick/115983502510721565 https://ruby.social/@kerrick/115983502510721565

g8oz 8mo ago

But simonw said that dark factories are the way forward /s

malfist 8mo ago
Lights out manufacturing is always the boogieman that's being built or coming tomorrow. Never seems to happen though. The Wikipedia article for it only cites two such factories, and at least one of them requires humans still and isn't fully lights out.
- kranner 8mo ago
  It's a reference to this article about entirely automated software production (eventually and hypothetical): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46739117 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46739117

Kerrick 8mo ago

> Absolutely agree with this, the ratio of talk to output is insane, especially when the talk is all about how much better output is. Those of us building are having so much fun we aren't slowing down to write think pieces. I don't mean this flippantly. I'm a blogger. I love writing! But since a brief post on December 22 I haven't blogged because I have been too busy implementing incredible amounts of software with AI. Since you'll want receipts, here they are: - https://git.sr.ht/~kerrick/ratatui_ruby/tree/trunk/item/README.rdoc https://git.sr.ht/~kerrick/ratatui_ruby/tree/trunk/item/READ... - https://git.sr.ht/~kerrick/rooibos/tree/trunk/item/README.rdoc https://git.sr.ht/~kerrick/rooibos/tree/trunk/item/README.rd... - https://git.sr.ht/~kerrick/tokra/tree https://git.sr.ht/~kerrick/tokra/tree Between Christmas and New Year's Day I was on vacation, so I had plenty of time. Since then, it's only been nights & weekends (and some early mornings and lunch breaks).

dingnuts 8mo ago
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yojat661 8mo ago
Are these software popular? Are these maintainable long term? Are you getting feedback from users?
- Kerrick 8mo ago
  RatatuiRuby is pretty new still: its beta launch was Jan 20. Octobox's TUI is built on it [0], and Sidekiq is using it to build theirs [1]. I believe they'll be maintainable long-term, as they've got extensive tests and documentation, and I built a theory of the program [2] on the Ruby side of it as I reviewed and guided the agent's work. I am getting feedback from users, the largest of which drove the creation of (and iteration upon) Rooibos. As a rendering library, RatatuiRuby doesn't do much to guide the design or architecture of an application. Rooibos is an MVU/TEA framework [3] to do exactly that. Tokra is basically a tech demo at this stage, [4] so (hopefully) no users yet. [0]: https://ruby.social/@andrewnez@mastodon.social/115935182284375913 https://ruby.social/@andrewnez@mastodon.social/1159351822843... [1]: https://ruby.social/@getajobmike/115940044592981164 https://ruby.social/@getajobmike/115940044592981164 [2]: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0165607485900328 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/016560... [3]: https://guide.elm-lang.org/architecture/ https://guide.elm-lang.org/architecture/ [4]: https://ruby.social/@kerrick/115983502510721565 https://ruby.social/@kerrick/115983502510721565