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Yeah. Even if OpenAI models were the best, I still wouldn't used them, given how the Sam Altman persona is despicable (constantly hyping, lying, asking for no r

Yeah. Even if OpenAI models were the best, I still wouldn't used them, given how the Sam Altman persona is despicable (constantly hyping, lying, asking for no regulations, then asking for regulations, leaked emails where founders say they just wanna get rich without any consideration of their initial "open" claims...). I know other companies are not better, but at least they have a business model and something to lose.

pinnochio 8mo ago
> leaked emails where founders say they just wanna get rich without any consideration of their initial "open" claims Point me to these? Would like to have a look.
- TheRoque 8mo ago
  Sorry, not leaked emails, but it's the Greg Brockman's diary and leaked texts. I didn't find the original lawsuit documents, but there's a screenshot in this video: https://youtu.be/csybdOY_CQM?si=otx3yn4N26iZoN7L&t=182 https://youtu.be/csybdOY_CQM?si=otx3yn4N26iZoN7L&t=182 (timestamp is 3:02 if you don't see it) There's more details about the behind-the-scenes and greg brockman's diary leaks in this article: https://www.techbuzz.ai/articles/open-ai-lawsuit-exposed-the-private-diaries-secret-texts-and-500-billion-fraud-case-going-to-trial-in-2026 https://www.techbuzz.ai/articles/open-ai-lawsuit-exposed-the... Some documents are made public thanks to the Musk-OpenAI trial. I'll let you read a few articles about this lawsuit, but basically they said to Musk (and frankly, to everyone else) that they were committed to the non-profit model, while behind the scenes thinking about "making the billion" and turning for-profit.
  - pinnochio 8mo ago
    Much appreciated! Edit: Ah, so the fake investment announcements started from the very beginning. Incredible.
  - philo_sophia 8mo ago
    Hate that bringing fraud to justice means paying out to the wealthiest person on the planet....
    - oska 8mo ago
      Justice should be blind
  - junofan 8mo ago
    Literally everyone raising money is just searching for the magic combo of stuff to make it happen. Nobody enjoys raising money. Wouldn’t read that much into this.
Turfie 8mo ago
I agree. Especially the whole Johny Ive and Altman's hype video in that coffee shop was absolutely disgusting. Oh how far their egos have been inflated, which leads to very bad decision making. Not to be trusted.
- TheRoque 8mo ago
  Oh could I get a link to that one ?
  - chrisvalleybay 8mo ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDNyFN_eMec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDNyFN_eMec
    - TheRoque 8mo ago
      That has strong Krazam vibes https://youtu.be/WqjUlmkYr2g?si=KiMO-dtyFEZ_XIDt https://youtu.be/WqjUlmkYr2g?si=KiMO-dtyFEZ_XIDt
      - chrisvalleybay 8mo ago
        Just fantastic. Hadn't seen it. Thanks for sharing that!

pinnochio 8mo ago

> leaked emails where founders say they just wanna get rich without any consideration of their initial "open" claims Point me to these? Would like to have a look.

TheRoque 8mo ago
Sorry, not leaked emails, but it's the Greg Brockman's diary and leaked texts. I didn't find the original lawsuit documents, but there's a screenshot in this video: https://youtu.be/csybdOY_CQM?si=otx3yn4N26iZoN7L&t=182 https://youtu.be/csybdOY_CQM?si=otx3yn4N26iZoN7L&t=182 (timestamp is 3:02 if you don't see it) There's more details about the behind-the-scenes and greg brockman's diary leaks in this article: https://www.techbuzz.ai/articles/open-ai-lawsuit-exposed-the-private-diaries-secret-texts-and-500-billion-fraud-case-going-to-trial-in-2026 https://www.techbuzz.ai/articles/open-ai-lawsuit-exposed-the... Some documents are made public thanks to the Musk-OpenAI trial. I'll let you read a few articles about this lawsuit, but basically they said to Musk (and frankly, to everyone else) that they were committed to the non-profit model, while behind the scenes thinking about "making the billion" and turning for-profit.
- pinnochio 8mo ago
  Much appreciated! Edit: Ah, so the fake investment announcements started from the very beginning. Incredible.
- philo_sophia 8mo ago
  Hate that bringing fraud to justice means paying out to the wealthiest person on the planet....
  - oska 8mo ago
    Justice should be blind
- junofan 8mo ago
  Literally everyone raising money is just searching for the magic combo of stuff to make it happen. Nobody enjoys raising money. Wouldn’t read that much into this.

Turfie 8mo ago

I agree. Especially the whole Johny Ive and Altman's hype video in that coffee shop was absolutely disgusting. Oh how far their egos have been inflated, which leads to very bad decision making. Not to be trusted.

TheRoque 8mo ago
Oh could I get a link to that one ?
- chrisvalleybay 8mo ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDNyFN_eMec https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDNyFN_eMec
  - TheRoque 8mo ago
    That has strong Krazam vibes https://youtu.be/WqjUlmkYr2g?si=KiMO-dtyFEZ_XIDt https://youtu.be/WqjUlmkYr2g?si=KiMO-dtyFEZ_XIDt
    - chrisvalleybay 8mo ago
      Just fantastic. Hadn't seen it. Thanks for sharing that!