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Keep dreaming. I'm not sure why so many people believe that what - jury nullification? - is going to happen.

toomuchtodo 8mo ago
$1.4M defense fund (so far), exceptional legal team, jury nullification, lots of paths to success. His case is going well so far, and appeals are always an option. “Proof beyond a reasonable doubt” is the bar. How confident are you there isn’t at least one juror who hasn’t been harmed by their health insurance, financially or medically? Only takes one.
- JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
  > How confident are you there isn’t at least one juror who hasn’t been harmed by their health insurance, financially or medically? Who doesn't perjor themselves during voir dire, thereby triggering a mistrial? Pretty confident. Maybe he gets lucky in federal court because Bondi is an idiot. But the state charges are solid, and New York isn't Reddit.
  - toomuchtodo 8mo ago
    I’ll bet you a bottle of a beverage you enjoy. Let me know. Laws are just loose rules we sometimes collectively adhere to, people are mostly emotion driven. Sometimes the law matters, but sometimes not.
    - JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
      > I’ll bet you a bottle of a beverage you enjoy. Let me know I’ll take it! If he’s found not guilty on all counts in his state and federal trials, I owe you. > people are mostly emotion driven Sure. A prosecutor’s (and judge’s) job is to remove these people from a jury pool.
JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
> not sure why so many people believe that what - jury nullification? - is going to happen Eh, if I thought Mangione was justified or effective it would be an easy way to feel good for a while with zero real-world consequences apart from my moral integrity. (Which, to be clear, is mine and mine alone. I have friends–good people whom I love and respect–who would nullify Mangione. They're just never getting seated on his jury without perjuring themselves.)

$1.4M defense fund (so far), exceptional legal team, jury nullification, lots of paths to success. His case is going well so far, and appeals are always an option. “Proof beyond a reasonable doubt” is the bar. How confident are you there isn’t at least one juror who hasn’t been harmed by their health insurance, financially or medically? Only takes one.

JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
> How confident are you there isn’t at least one juror who hasn’t been harmed by their health insurance, financially or medically? Who doesn't perjor themselves during voir dire, thereby triggering a mistrial? Pretty confident. Maybe he gets lucky in federal court because Bondi is an idiot. But the state charges are solid, and New York isn't Reddit.
- toomuchtodo 8mo ago
  I’ll bet you a bottle of a beverage you enjoy. Let me know. Laws are just loose rules we sometimes collectively adhere to, people are mostly emotion driven. Sometimes the law matters, but sometimes not.
  - JumpCrisscross 8mo ago
    > I’ll bet you a bottle of a beverage you enjoy. Let me know I’ll take it! If he’s found not guilty on all counts in his state and federal trials, I owe you. > people are mostly emotion driven Sure. A prosecutor’s (and judge’s) job is to remove these people from a jury pool.

JumpCrisscross 8mo ago

> not sure why so many people believe that what - jury nullification? - is going to happen Eh, if I thought Mangione was justified or effective it would be an easy way to feel good for a while with zero real-world consequences apart from my moral integrity. (Which, to be clear, is mine and mine alone. I have friends–good people whom I love and respect–who would nullify Mangione. They're just never getting seated on his jury without perjuring themselves.)