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The Verge has truly become one of the most respected sites on the web. Some of the best reporting, tech or otherwise, is being done there. Kudos

coldpie 9mo ago
Agreed. I signed up for a paid subscription last month after I was linked to this article[1] which correctly, clearly, and accurately labeled the administration's claims about that incident as lies. This is journalism, and it is worth money. The half-assed "videos give the appearance of possibly contradicting..." decide-for-yourself garbage printed by places like the NYT isn't worth the cost of sending the bits over the wire. [1] https://www.theverge.com/policy/859055/minneapolis-renee-good-ice-shooting https://www.theverge.com/policy/859055/minneapolis-renee-goo...
gsibble 9mo ago
Now that's a hilarious comment. The Verge has become a joke website.
- embedding-shape 9mo ago
  > The Verge has become a joke website. Because? I'll be honest, haven't read much from The Verge so don't know much how it used to be/is now, but given they seemingly post articles about how to resist government tyranny, doesn't that make them a good website in general?
  - cookszn 9mo ago
    Government tyranny is when customs and border protection enforce immigration laws? ok lol
    - embedding-shape 9mo ago
      If what you're seeing right now is just "enforcing immigration laws", then yeah, obviously that's not government tyranny. But I'm guessing you still have somewhat free media (?) and also could look at what international news channels report from the US, and they're not painting a picture of "enforcing immigration laws", just the amount of added vote restrictions that been going on should give you a heads up where it's about to go, and that the president is flirting with that the administration should actually be the ones responsible for the elections. If you don't see it at this point, I'm afraid you might be blind.
      - cookszn 9mo ago
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  - jonny_eh 9mo ago
    Yes. Unless you support govt tyranny.
- hvb2 9mo ago
  Because? It doesn't align with your views?
- troyvit 9mo ago
  I'm curious ... what are you doing in the comments section of an HN post about an article from The Verge then? I mean I look at articles from El Reg even though it's clearly yellow journalism, and sometimes I do it partially for the same reason someone might listen to a crazy person ranting on the train. Is that it?
8f2ab37a-ed6c 9mo ago
The author in particular strikes me as a thoughtful, considerate and unbiased individual, a paragon of inclusivity: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45052534 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45052534
- acessoproibido 9mo ago
  some dumb old troll tweets that someone wrote years ago (and publicly apologized for) shouldn't disqualified them from being a great reporter. hell by that metric basically noone who ever wrote something publicly of any substance is qualified also ever visited twitter? the stuff she wrote is pretty tame even by 2022 cancel culture standards
  - throwaway290 9mo ago
    She didn't apologize, what she said can be used by any harasser. "I was harassed by girls when I was young so now I adopt their language and harass women." Also I didn't know there is so much harassment online towards young south korean girls.
- __alexs 9mo ago
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  - mindslight 9mo ago
    Don't fool yourself that buying into the culture war has anything to do with being grounded in reality.
- Arthanos 9mo ago
  Cancel culture.
- catapart 9mo ago
  sarcasm is easy, but I'd be willing to hear any earnest objections you have. my assumption is that you don't have any that aren't themselves hypocritical or contradictory, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong about that! ETA: in case it's unclear - this is not me trying to platform OP's bullshit in good faith, this is me calling OP's bluff. I don't think ne can articulate an actual problem that isn't self-defeating, which is why ne retreated to sarcastic implication rather than outright accusation.
stronglikedan 9mo ago
I wouldn't call it "reporting". More like opinion pieces with some facts here and there, but also a ton of flat out lies and half truths.
- troyvit 9mo ago
  The thing I like about this article in particular is that it reads like one of their vapid and paid-for vacuum reviews (https://www.theverge.com/tech/625409/best-robot-vacuum-mops https://www.theverge.com/tech/625409/best-robot-vacuum-mops) but it's for civil disobedience. They are in a way poking fun at their own business model and it makes me laugh.
thepryz 9mo ago
I have a lot of criticisms on The Verge and stopped reading it a long time ago, but one of my favorite moments from them was when Jean-Louis Gassée trolled Nilay Patel and showed just how hypocritical he is and how fragile his ego was.
nnutter 9mo ago
Yeah, this is quality content right here, > Durable enough to survive a scuffle with a right-wing extremist, even if the bones of your hand do not
- harimau777 9mo ago
  Can you clarify what you take issue with?

coldpie 9mo ago

Agreed. I signed up for a paid subscription last month after I was linked to this article[1] which correctly, clearly, and accurately labeled the administration's claims about that incident as lies. This is journalism, and it is worth money. The half-assed "videos give the appearance of possibly contradicting..." decide-for-yourself garbage printed by places like the NYT isn't worth the cost of sending the bits over the wire. [1] https://www.theverge.com/policy/859055/minneapolis-renee-good-ice-shooting https://www.theverge.com/policy/859055/minneapolis-renee-goo...

gsibble 9mo ago

Now that's a hilarious comment. The Verge has become a joke website.

embedding-shape 9mo ago
> The Verge has become a joke website. Because? I'll be honest, haven't read much from The Verge so don't know much how it used to be/is now, but given they seemingly post articles about how to resist government tyranny, doesn't that make them a good website in general?
- cookszn 9mo ago
  Government tyranny is when customs and border protection enforce immigration laws? ok lol
  - embedding-shape 9mo ago
    If what you're seeing right now is just "enforcing immigration laws", then yeah, obviously that's not government tyranny. But I'm guessing you still have somewhat free media (?) and also could look at what international news channels report from the US, and they're not painting a picture of "enforcing immigration laws", just the amount of added vote restrictions that been going on should give you a heads up where it's about to go, and that the president is flirting with that the administration should actually be the ones responsible for the elections. If you don't see it at this point, I'm afraid you might be blind.
    - cookszn 9mo ago
      [dead]
- jonny_eh 9mo ago
  Yes. Unless you support govt tyranny.
hvb2 9mo ago
Because? It doesn't align with your views?
troyvit 9mo ago
I'm curious ... what are you doing in the comments section of an HN post about an article from The Verge then? I mean I look at articles from El Reg even though it's clearly yellow journalism, and sometimes I do it partially for the same reason someone might listen to a crazy person ranting on the train. Is that it?

8f2ab37a-ed6c 9mo ago

The author in particular strikes me as a thoughtful, considerate and unbiased individual, a paragon of inclusivity: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45052534 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45052534

acessoproibido 9mo ago
some dumb old troll tweets that someone wrote years ago (and publicly apologized for) shouldn't disqualified them from being a great reporter. hell by that metric basically noone who ever wrote something publicly of any substance is qualified also ever visited twitter? the stuff she wrote is pretty tame even by 2022 cancel culture standards
- throwaway290 9mo ago
  She didn't apologize, what she said can be used by any harasser. "I was harassed by girls when I was young so now I adopt their language and harass women." Also I didn't know there is so much harassment online towards young south korean girls.
__alexs 9mo ago
[flagged]
- deleted 9mo ago
  [deleted]
- mindslight 9mo ago
  Don't fool yourself that buying into the culture war has anything to do with being grounded in reality.
Arthanos 9mo ago
Cancel culture.
catapart 9mo ago
sarcasm is easy, but I'd be willing to hear any earnest objections you have. my assumption is that you don't have any that aren't themselves hypocritical or contradictory, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong about that! ETA: in case it's unclear - this is not me trying to platform OP's bullshit in good faith, this is me calling OP's bluff. I don't think ne can articulate an actual problem that isn't self-defeating, which is why ne retreated to sarcastic implication rather than outright accusation.

stronglikedan 9mo ago

I wouldn't call it "reporting". More like opinion pieces with some facts here and there, but also a ton of flat out lies and half truths.

troyvit 9mo ago
The thing I like about this article in particular is that it reads like one of their vapid and paid-for vacuum reviews (https://www.theverge.com/tech/625409/best-robot-vacuum-mops https://www.theverge.com/tech/625409/best-robot-vacuum-mops) but it's for civil disobedience. They are in a way poking fun at their own business model and it makes me laugh.

thepryz 9mo ago

I have a lot of criticisms on The Verge and stopped reading it a long time ago, but one of my favorite moments from them was when Jean-Louis Gassée trolled Nilay Patel and showed just how hypocritical he is and how fragile his ego was.

nnutter 9mo ago

Yeah, this is quality content right here, > Durable enough to survive a scuffle with a right-wing extremist, even if the bones of your hand do not

harimau777 9mo ago
Can you clarify what you take issue with?