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It’s because you bought it. Don’t buy it if you don’t want to insure.
by throw20251220 9mo ago
It’s because you bought it. Don’t buy it if you don’t want to insure.
- SoftTalker 9mo agoYep, you bought it, you own it, you choose to operate it on the public roads. Therefore your liability.
- 9rx 9mo agoIf you bought and owned it, you could sell it to another auto manufacturer for some pretty serious amounts of money. In reality, you acquired a license to use it. Your liability should only go as far as you have agreed to identify the licenser.
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- recursive 9mo agoYou can actually do that. Except that they could just buy one themselves. Companies exist that buy cars just to tear them down and publish reports on what they find.
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- 9rx 9mo ago> Companies exist that buy cars just to tear them down and publish reports on what they find. What does it mean to tear down software, exactly? Are you thinking of something like decompilation? You can do that, but you're probably not going to learn all that much, and you still can't use it in any meaningful sense as you never bought it in the first place. You only licensed use of it as a consumer (and now that it is subscription-only, maybe not even that). If you have to rebuild the whole thing yourself anyway, what have you really gained? Its not exactly a secret how the technology works, only costly to build. > Except that they could just buy one themselves. That is unlikely, unless you mean buying Tesla outright? Getting a license to use it as a manufacturer is much more realistic, but still a license.
- recursive 9mo agoCheck out Munro and Associates. I'm not talking about software. The whole car.
- 9rx 8mo agoFor what reason? In case you have forgotten, the discussion is about self-driving technology, and specifically Tesla's at that. The original questioner asked why he is liable when it is Tesla's property that is making the decisions. Of course, the most direct answer is because Tesla disclaims any liability in the license agreement you must agree to in order to use said property. Which has nothing to do with an independent consulting firm or "the whole car" as far as I can see. The connection you are trying to establish is unclear. Perhaps you pressed the wrong 'reply' button by mistake?
- recursive 8mo agoI started responding to this. I interpreted it to be referring to the whole car. > Yep, you bought it, you own it, you choose to operate it on the public roads. Therefore your liability.
- Rebelgecko 9mo agoI don't think Tesla lets you buy FSD
- throw20251220 8mo agoIf they don’t let you buy, you don’t own. If you don’t own, how is that insurance even available to you?
- scottyah 9mo agoThey do, until Feb 14th.
- Rebelgecko 9mo agoEven now I think it's a revocable license