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The subject is people who entered illegally or have remained past their visas. Illegal aliens under federal law. Outside of kooks, no one wants to deport lega

by mc32 9mo ago

The subject is people who entered illegally or have remained past their visas. Illegal aliens under federal law. Outside of kooks, no one wants to deport legal residents. They may want to limit some form of migration but that’s not the question and that’s not what ICE are concerned with. It’s not even in their scope in any way.

Jtsummers 9mo ago
> Outside of kooks, no one wants to deport legal residents. I agree, but that's not what you wrote in your original comment and were asked to defend and then failed to defend. You claimed that 60% of the population wants all aliens deported. The word "all" there means your claim included legal residents. Now you're backpedaling, I guess.
- mc32 9mo ago
  If you read further down you see I reference illegal aliens. Thats the jist.
  - Jtsummers 9mo ago
    That's not what you wrote, though. You wrote: > ~60-ish percent of the pop want all aliens deported not only criminal aliens That statement covers both illegal and legal aliens. Do you not know what the words you wrote mean? Why are you lying about your words that are plainly visible on this page if you do know what they mean?
15155 9mo ago
A common technique used by illegal immigration sympathizers is to artfully conflate the two for argument's sake.
- VBprogrammer 9mo ago
  A common technique used by racists is to pretend they are only care about illegal immigration.
  - mothballed 9mo ago
    Which is interesting when coupled with the fact that the people enthusiastically carrying that out is CBP agents (the people that murdered Pretti) at 50% latino/hispanic, and ICE also disproportionately latino. Why are minorities so overrepresented in the racist forces?
    - 15155 9mo ago
      "Murder" is a very specific form of homicide and is both legally and morally unlikely to be the correct term here.
      - mothballed 9mo ago
        Ok. Homicidal racist forces, disproportionately manned by minorities, who want to stomp on other minorities.
        15155 9mo ago
        Imagine waiting in line for a decade, going through a grueling process, following the rules and immigrating legally, only to show up and see hordes of criminal invaders who thought they were exempt from the same.
        mothballed 9mo ago
        Why do that. Just get popped out by an illegal on US soil. boom, you are a citizen, and you can join the border patrol and smugly declare "ha you didn't wait in line."
        15155 9mo ago
        Here's to hoping the Supreme Court can fix this loophole that almost no other developed nation in the entire world still allows!
Marsymars 9mo ago
> Outside of kooks, no one wants to deport legal residents. The kooks seem to be running the show. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dhs-100-million-deportations-post_n_6955e15ee4b0ed8017e05656 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dhs-100-million-deportations-...

by mc32 9mo ago

Jtsummers 9mo ago

> Outside of kooks, no one wants to deport legal residents. I agree, but that's not what you wrote in your original comment and were asked to defend and then failed to defend. You claimed that 60% of the population wants all aliens deported. The word "all" there means your claim included legal residents. Now you're backpedaling, I guess.

mc32 9mo ago
If you read further down you see I reference illegal aliens. Thats the jist.
- Jtsummers 9mo ago
  That's not what you wrote, though. You wrote: > ~60-ish percent of the pop want all aliens deported not only criminal aliens That statement covers both illegal and legal aliens. Do you not know what the words you wrote mean? Why are you lying about your words that are plainly visible on this page if you do know what they mean?

15155 9mo ago

A common technique used by illegal immigration sympathizers is to artfully conflate the two for argument's sake.

VBprogrammer 9mo ago
A common technique used by racists is to pretend they are only care about illegal immigration.
- mothballed 9mo ago
  Which is interesting when coupled with the fact that the people enthusiastically carrying that out is CBP agents (the people that murdered Pretti) at 50% latino/hispanic, and ICE also disproportionately latino. Why are minorities so overrepresented in the racist forces?
  - 15155 9mo ago
    "Murder" is a very specific form of homicide and is both legally and morally unlikely to be the correct term here.
    - mothballed 9mo ago
      Ok. Homicidal racist forces, disproportionately manned by minorities, who want to stomp on other minorities.
      - 15155 9mo ago
        Imagine waiting in line for a decade, going through a grueling process, following the rules and immigrating legally, only to show up and see hordes of criminal invaders who thought they were exempt from the same.
        mothballed 9mo ago
        Why do that. Just get popped out by an illegal on US soil. boom, you are a citizen, and you can join the border patrol and smugly declare "ha you didn't wait in line."
        15155 9mo ago
        Here's to hoping the Supreme Court can fix this loophole that almost no other developed nation in the entire world still allows!

Marsymars 9mo ago

> Outside of kooks, no one wants to deport legal residents. The kooks seem to be running the show. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dhs-100-million-deportations-post_n_6955e15ee4b0ed8017e05656 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/dhs-100-million-deportations-...