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Even DRM-less? That makes no sense. I agree on the DRM content though.. The problem is that most people will probably not.

by gizzlon 14y ago

jiggy2011 14y ago
You still don't necessarily own a DRM-free copy of something. DRM is simply a technical method of enforcing a legal license. Just because you can use a DRM free file in more ways (for example copy and share it) doesn't mean that the license grants you the rights to do so. One example I remember from the early 90s was "shareware" where you could send off for a free or low cost copy of a software program. These programs were sometimes just demo versions but often actually provided the entire program for free. However the license stated that you must either delete the program from your computer after some period (usually 30 days) or you must pay a "registration fee" to the developer. Of course without DRM they had no actual way of enforcing this so plenty of people kept shareware versions of programs long after the 30 days which lead to developers releasing only versions with limited functionality for free.
- mertd 14y ago
  Sme shareware would stop working after the trial period, and if you played it by the book or didn't know the workarounds, you would have to make the purchase.
  - jiggy2011 14y ago
    That seemed to come later, a lot of DOS programs would let you keep using them with just a reminder screen on startup. mIRC is one program that was free to use for a long time.
netcan 14y ago
I'm talking about the feeling more than anything else. Having a song or a book on my computer/device doesn't feel like ownership to me so I don't treat it like ownership. A book on my kobo feels no different to a podcast on my phone. I don't think about my relationship with it. Part of that is probably because I already treat physical copies of music/books as temporary things. I abandoned all my CDs & books during my last move. I don't really care about owning this stuff. I just want to listen to music read books and watch shows. Another part is probably because I think whatever the system is now for owning, distributing & acculating digital property will be moot anyway within the next 10-20 years. Basically, I don't expect my grandchildren to inherit my "cloud." They'll have access to all that stuff one way or another anyway.

Even DRM-less? That makes no sense. I agree on the DRM content though.. The problem is that most people will probably not.

by gizzlon 14y ago

Even DRM-less? That makes no sense. I agree on the DRM content though.. The problem is that most people will probably not.

jiggy2011 14y ago

You still don't necessarily own a DRM-free copy of something. DRM is simply a technical method of enforcing a legal license. Just because you can use a DRM free file in more ways (for example copy and share it) doesn't mean that the license grants you the rights to do so. One example I remember from the early 90s was "shareware" where you could send off for a free or low cost copy of a software program. These programs were sometimes just demo versions but often actually provided the entire program for free. However the license stated that you must either delete the program from your computer after some period (usually 30 days) or you must pay a "registration fee" to the developer. Of course without DRM they had no actual way of enforcing this so plenty of people kept shareware versions of programs long after the 30 days which lead to developers releasing only versions with limited functionality for free.

mertd 14y ago
Sme shareware would stop working after the trial period, and if you played it by the book or didn't know the workarounds, you would have to make the purchase.
- jiggy2011 14y ago
  That seemed to come later, a lot of DOS programs would let you keep using them with just a reminder screen on startup. mIRC is one program that was free to use for a long time.

netcan 14y ago

I'm talking about the feeling more than anything else. Having a song or a book on my computer/device doesn't feel like ownership to me so I don't treat it like ownership. A book on my kobo feels no different to a podcast on my phone. I don't think about my relationship with it. Part of that is probably because I already treat physical copies of music/books as temporary things. I abandoned all my CDs & books during my last move. I don't really care about owning this stuff. I just want to listen to music read books and watch shows. Another part is probably because I think whatever the system is now for owning, distributing & acculating digital property will be moot anyway within the next 10-20 years. Basically, I don't expect my grandchildren to inherit my "cloud." They'll have access to all that stuff one way or another anyway.