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Its really hard to take people who say this seriously: "If you asked me six months ago what I thought of generative AI, I would have said that we’re seeing a lo

Its really hard to take people who say this seriously: "If you asked me six months ago what I thought of generative AI, I would have said that we’re seeing a lot of interesting movement, but the jury is out on whether it will be useful" Like I'm sorry but if you couldn't see that this tech would be enormously useful for millions if not billions of people you really shouldn't be putting yourself out there opining on anything at all. Same vibes as the guys saying horseless carriages were useless and couldn't possibly do anything better than a horse which after all has its own mind. Just incredibly short sighted and lacking curiosity or creativity.

rootnod3 9mo ago
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skydhash 9mo ago
First car prototypes were useless and it has taken a few decades to have a good version. The first combustion engine was in 1826. Would you buy a prototype or a carriage for transportation at that time?
- volkk 9mo ago
  no, but AI isn't going to light on fire as I drive and potentially kill me. it's also not an exorbitant expense.
  - irishcoffee 9mo ago
    LLMs have convinced people to "light themselves on fire" as they drive the LLM. They're dead now.
- vonneumannstan 9mo ago
  If you couldn't foresee how they would eventually be useful with improvements over time you probably bought a lot of horse carriages in 1893 and appropriately lost your ass.
  - CamperBob2 9mo ago
    The problem is, that's only one way you could have lost your ass during the transition from horses to cars. I think that's what skydhash was getting at. There were hundreds of early car companies, all competing aggressively with one another, each with something to sell that the others seemed to lack. For every one that succeeded, dozens ended in bankruptcy, and not necessarily through any obvious fault of their own. You could be right about everything and still end up broke. How to avoid being a Duryea, a Knox, a Marsh, a Maxwell-Briscoe, or a Pope-Toledo seems to be the real question. Same thing pretty much happened in the early days of radio, with the addition of vicious patent wars. Which I'm sure we'll eventually see in the AI field, once the infinite money hose starts to dry up.
    - skydhash 9mo ago
      And even if AI becomes a staple of daily life, why the rush? No ones today learn how to drive cars on the Model T. I’ve never even used win 95 and earlier, and learned about Linux around 2010. Now I’ve been reading the latter’s source code.
gllmariuty 9mo ago
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rootnod3 9mo ago

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skydhash 9mo ago

First car prototypes were useless and it has taken a few decades to have a good version. The first combustion engine was in 1826. Would you buy a prototype or a carriage for transportation at that time?

volkk 9mo ago
no, but AI isn't going to light on fire as I drive and potentially kill me. it's also not an exorbitant expense.
- irishcoffee 9mo ago
  LLMs have convinced people to "light themselves on fire" as they drive the LLM. They're dead now.
vonneumannstan 9mo ago
If you couldn't foresee how they would eventually be useful with improvements over time you probably bought a lot of horse carriages in 1893 and appropriately lost your ass.
- CamperBob2 9mo ago
  The problem is, that's only one way you could have lost your ass during the transition from horses to cars. I think that's what skydhash was getting at. There were hundreds of early car companies, all competing aggressively with one another, each with something to sell that the others seemed to lack. For every one that succeeded, dozens ended in bankruptcy, and not necessarily through any obvious fault of their own. You could be right about everything and still end up broke. How to avoid being a Duryea, a Knox, a Marsh, a Maxwell-Briscoe, or a Pope-Toledo seems to be the real question. Same thing pretty much happened in the early days of radio, with the addition of vicious patent wars. Which I'm sure we'll eventually see in the AI field, once the infinite money hose starts to dry up.
  - skydhash 9mo ago
    And even if AI becomes a staple of daily life, why the rush? No ones today learn how to drive cars on the Model T. I’ve never even used win 95 and earlier, and learned about Linux around 2010. Now I’ve been reading the latter’s source code.

gllmariuty 9mo ago

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