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A scourge? I get some kind of valuable use from it almost every day. This criticism sounds completely out of touch.
by GorbachevyChase 9mo ago
A scourge? I get some kind of valuable use from it almost every day. This criticism sounds completely out of touch.
- croes 9mo ago> as they are currently implemented
- therealdrag0 9mo agoAs they are currently implemented, I get daily value from them.
- kakacik 9mo agoAt what cost? See discussion here. And who bears the burden of that cost? Sure you can look away from child labor providing you the latest iphones or lithium mines for the same or electric cars destroying pristine tropical jungles and entire ecosystems, many folks do so very comfortably. Then some others don't. Different moral values and such.
- therealdrag0 9mo agoAre you using a phone and computer or bank or website that doesn’t have mined materials? Surely you use things with negative externalities because you get value from them.
- grayhatter 9mo agoYou participate in $the_thing so surely you must support $the_thing, right? I would get value from stealing, I don't steal from people. The argument or question isn't about if it has value to some people, the question is, does the value to some people outweigh the costs that are imposed on others.
- croes 9mo agoDidn’t know you are the complete humanity. Somebody get daily value from rising food prices, isn’t as good for humanity
- cowpig 9mo agoYou are capable of considering effects of systems outside of your immediate, moment-to-moment needs?
- simianwords 9mo agoare _you_ capable of consdering the advantages that AI can bring instead of simply focusing on the easy parts like pollution and energy?
- cowpig 9mo agoAI has incredible potential for both But the negatives are spiraling out of control. Pollution and energy and the amplification of structural social problems like wealth stratification, authoritarianism, media manipulation... With great power comes great responsibility, and we're living in an era in which our culture has shifted dramatically towards accepting immoral, short-sighted, and reckless behaviour.
- simianwords 9mo agoyou could have said the same about any technology - industrial revolution, the internet - anything really. always easy to talk about concerns.
- grayhatter 9mo ago> instead of simply focusing on the easy parts like pollution and energy? Yeah, I completely agree AI is fantastic with no downsides; as long as you ignore all of it's down sides. Do you think it's a good thing to ignore the downsides when advocating for something?
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- SketchySeaBeast 9mo agoCommensurate to the actual cost?
- sixo 9mo agoCertainly commensurate to the price. It's up to the companies to bring the cost under the price. AFAICT, fears of the marginal costs of LLM inference being high are dramatically overblown. All the "water" concerns are outlandish, for one—a day of moderately heavy LLM usage consumes on the order of one glass of water, compared to a baseline consumption of 1000 glasses/day for a modern human. And the water usage of a data center is approximately the same as agriculture per acre.
- SketchySeaBeast 9mo agoI don't think anyone has a single agreed upon number for the water consumption, with the higher estimates focusing on a lot of wider externalities and the lower estimates ignoring them, such as ignoring the cost of training.
- simianwords 9mo agoit doesn't have to be agreed upon but even the largest estimates don't come even close to how much corn farms use > The water usage of 260 square miles of irrigated corn farms, equivalent to 1% of America’s total irrigated corn. https://andymasley.substack.com/p/the-ai-water-issue-is-fake?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://andymasley.substack.com/p/the-ai-water-issue-is-fake... Roughly 1% of corn is used for actual food consumption btw.
- GorbachevyChase 9mo agoCompared to the fair market cost of human labor? It might be thousands of times more efficient.
- mehlmao 9mo agoDo you have children? Post some pictures of them so Grok can show us what they look like unclothed and covered in "yogurt". It's possible to imagine LLMs implemented responsibly, but our ruling class has decided against that.
- bradford 9mo agoLet's avoid falling into the trap of assuming the worst of people when replying to comments.
- wasmainiac 9mo agoIt’s no more useful than when google and stack overflow was at its peak! All I want is to find docs. The coding performance is lackluster, oversold and under delivered. Everything else gen AI is dystopian.
- wasmainiac 9mo agoWhy not debate me rather than downvotes? Eh hallucinations break my workflow and end up costing me more time debugging then it’s worth.