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That's easy. In the same place all the murdering from ICE agents during Obama era was.
by shaky-carrousel 9mo ago
That's easy. In the same place all the murdering from ICE agents during Obama era was.
- temp8830 9mo agoBut by the same token - the obstruction of federal agents who are carrying out their lawful mandate was also in that same place. True, the implementation was messed up. Those unlawful deportation cases should have been the ones to protest. Not demonizing all of ICE or flying Mexican flags.
- snowwrestler 9mo agoThere is absolutely nothing wrong with flying Mexican flags. Americans fly flags of other countries all the time. There are English flags all over a nearby pub in my area. Heck, there is an entire national holiday for celebrating the Irish—a holiday for which the Defense Department made an exception to its policy of avoiding cultural observances. The overreach by the current administration is what is driving the volume of protest activity. Specifically the high-volume targeting of lawful residents and Hispanic-looking citizens, and the “show your papers” geographical sweeps—none of which fit typical American notions of what is lawful. To some extent this overreach is intentional, as an exercise in generating social media content, and to intentionally make people upset as a pretext for deploying greater levels of force. It also seems politically performative since the current administration is focusing efforts in Chicago, Minnesota, Maine, etc, not Texas or Florida where there are far more undocumented immigrants. There were protests against the Obama deportation campaign but they were far smaller because the campaign itself stayed within bounds that fit most people’s notions of lawfulness and propriety. They also did not make the huge mistake of deciding in advance to all-out defend every single bad decision by every law enforcement agent. That alone is a huge factor in the pushback that officials are getting, even from GOP and 2A leaders.
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- snowwrestler 9mo agoHave a margarita and some tacos!
- temp8830 9mo agoSure, there's nothing wrong with flying a Mexican flag - if you are trying to create a lighting rod to attract all the anti-immigrant vitriol. It's the same kind of dumb as "defund the police" - actively harmful. And I strongly suspect that if I flew a Russian flag in the very liberal and tolerant Bay Area my house might just accidentally catch fire. Despite my right to do so.
- bartholemew1 9mo agoOkay let's say it is murder (regardless that there is broad disagreement and no charges) What drives someone to feel emboldened to park their car in the middle of an ICE operation and then attempt to drive off after being told to stop? What drives someone to run around spitting and kicking out lights on an ICE vehicle? It's like I can understand why someone is a sports fan, despite not following sports myself. I can fully understand, although I don't support, why someone would join the Taliban or Tren De Aragua or whatever other group. I can understand those things. But I still struggle to understand the above.
- walletdrainer 9mo ago>no charges This seems a bit disingenuous
- JayNitram 9mo agoEmpathy, that is what you appear to be missing in your equation. If I see someone about to chuck a baby off a cliff, I hope I step out of my normal comfort zone and do something. In that case it is probably pretty clear, and this one seems grey for some people, but for others, and myself include, ICE is affecting people's lives in ways that is unacceptable and we need to do something.
- mc32 9mo agoSo before the death of the protester everyone was honky dori with the deportations? It’s understood ~60-ish percent of the pop want all aliens deported not only criminal aliens, but there is a large minority that only want criminal aliens deported and a much smaller militant minority that don’t want any illegal aliens deported regardless of severity of crimes committed.
- SetTheorist 9mo agoIt is absolutely not the case that 60% of the population wants all non-citizens deported. On what do you base your claim?
- giancarlostoro 9mo agoProbably based on Trump winning the last presidential election. Which doesnt tell us if thats the only reason they voted for him or the primary, but some people just generalize every vote as such.
- computerthings 9mo ago[dead]
- mc32 9mo agoCheck CNN polling. It’s been pretty consistent over the last year or two: 56% to 62% of Americans support the deportation of all immigrants living in the U.S. illegally, according to various surveys from late 2025 and early 2026, including data often discussed in connection with CNN analysis and other outlets.
- Jtsummers 9mo agoYour original claim: > It’s understood ~60-ish percent of the pop want all aliens deported not only criminal aliens Your "evidence": > 56% to 62% of Americans support the deportation of all immigrants living in the U.S. illegally [emphasis added] You do realize that the polling does not support your original claim, right? That "illegally" bit is rather critical and, notably, missing in your original statement.