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1,400-year-old tomb featuring giant owl sculpture discovered in Mexico
- engineer_22 9mo agoThe Zapotec civilization pre-dates the Aztecs and Maya and were the first to develop a writing system in Mexico. Benito Juarez, President of Mexico during their revolution, was Zapotec. The Zapotec people are still around today and a large number still speak their ancient language. A large number moved to LA and another group in New Jersey, but they're all over the US.
- chrisco255 9mo agoHow many are "pure Zapotec" vs a blend of Spanish/Aztec/Mayan/Tlaxcalan/Cempoaloan/Texcocan? Is it a genetically identifiable trait or just cultural?
- frutiger 9mo agoThere is no such thing as “pure X” when it comes to organisms.
- chrisco255 9mo agoYes we can play the semantic game all the way to absurdity, but its also quite true that genetic ancestry is heritable and traceable. We know that many unique native american ancestries have been diluted down to very small percentages over the centuries so its not an unreasonable question.
- engineer_22 9mo agoI think they are a /people/ with common history, culture, and community bonds... The idea of pure races is a stupid one.
- chrisco255 9mo agoThe idea of pure cultures is even dumber. One is genetically traceable, the other is fluid and depends more on family upbringing and influence from local population interactions and social networks and mass media exposure. Unless Zapotec has remained uniquely isolated from quite strong Spanish/Mexican cultural identity and influence.
- OJFord 9mo agoBut it's also like, we know what we mean, if the Zapotec people/community are fairly insular or at least in marriage/procreation like to be with their own then that's for casual purposes 'mostly pure'. Otherwise I can't even say I'm 'British', because who knows what mix I am if I go back further than I have record of, which is just silly, we know what we mean.
- danparsonson 9mo agoYou're very close to following that line of enquiry to its logical conclusion, which is that our nationalities tell us little of any real value except what our home culture was like where and when we grew up. Personally I've come to regard identifying as any nationality as silly except for legal purposes. We're humans, and humans have always and always mixed between cultural groups, except in rare instances of total isolation; such people are not 'pure' anything, but they would likely be inbred. There is no 'pure' genetic strain of any race or indeed any organism. Whatever divisions there are between us are extremely blurry and constantly changing.
- OJFord 9mo agoI don't think it's silly for all purposes, it's silly to be racist about it, to say that 'pure x' is more desirable, or all that's 'allowed' in 'your' country etc., but that doesn't mean there's never any value in communicating 'what our home culture was like where and when we grew up'. I'm British, my wife isn't, and her parents emigrated from a third country before she was born. Our hypothetical children will not be 'purely' from any one of those cultures (nor would she even say she was 'purely' of her birth country not her parents'), and I think that does convey information.
- gen220 9mo agoOaxaca and its surroundings are still identifiably Zapotec! The idea of an urban landscape that’s still culturally and aesthetically indigenous to such an extent is super mindbending to this gringo. Mexico’s historical relationship to indigenous groups is incredibly complicated and problematic in its own ways, but it’s completely and frankly unimaginably different from the analogous relationships in the U.S. or Canada.
- shartshooter 9mo agoI wish this article shared more about how this tomb was discovered. Was it buried under mountain of dirt? Under a jungle canopy no one explored? Has it been there all along at an existing ruins site but was hidden in some way? Give us details man!
- parl_match 9mo agoThey likely do not want to give any details that allow third parties to figure out its location. It's frustrating, but their main goal right now needs to be imaging and preserving the art, and dating and identifying artifacts.
- divbzero 9mo agoI wonder if locals have always known about the tomb, but never realized it could be of interest on an international level.
- throwup238 9mo agoSites are tracked by cultural ministries using restricted site inventories that are only open to government officials and established researchers. There are many more known sites than there is funding to excavate them so this one was likely known for decades before they got around to it. These site inventories are generally filled using cultural resource management records submitted by surveyors, miners, construction companies, etc. who are often legally required to file them. A few tour guides I’ve used in Mexico found new ruins in the jungle and submitted their records with GOS coordinates and pictures. If locals knew about it, someone likely recorded the location a while ago.
- junon 9mo agoThis is fascinating, I had no idea it worked this way. I just always sort of assumed people happened upon random places that eventually make the news, not that there's a backlog of places to explore.
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- defrost 9mo agoPrimary release from Mexico’s National Institute of Anthropology and History: * https://www.inah.gob.mx/boletines/el-gobierno-de-mexico-anuncia-el-descubrimiento-de-una-milenaria-tumba-zapoteca https://www.inah.gob.mx/boletines/el-gobierno-de-mexico-anun... Better than CNN english language reporting based on primary release: * https://www.labrujulaverde.com/en/2026/01/an-intact-1400-year-old-zapotec-tomb-discovered-in-oaxaca/ https://www.labrujulaverde.com/en/2026/01/an-intact-1400-yea... Lack of location details and surrounds is deliberate in this type of work given the activities of looky lous and treasure hunter types, however there has been many years of prior work grinding through funery sites, burial "high rises", and cities of the dead: The significance of the discovery is further consolidated through comparisons with other high-status Zapotec funerary contexts in the region, such as those at Monte Albán or Lambityeco. Due to its construction quality, decorative richness, and symbolic complexity, the newly discovered tomb joins this elite group, confirming the existence of a powerful and widespread artistic and religious tradition in the Central Valleys during the Classic period. It is not an isolated find, but a key piece that completes a cultural mosaic, providing new data on the standardization of certain rituals and the diversity of iconographic expressions of power in death.
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- juun_roh 9mo agoOMG, Duolingo has been following us for 1400 years
- shermantanktop 9mo agoIt’s a tomb. Looks like the owl finally caught up with someone who didn’t do their lesson.
- nephihaha 9mo agoDuolingo LOL. I was thinking Bohemian Grove.
- tclancy 9mo agoHopefully one of the researchers was able to save the dead guy’s streak. Wonder what language he was learning and why.
- nephihaha 9mo agoThere has to be a Bohemian Grove joke in here somewhere.
- trebligdivad 9mo agothe title says 'giant owl sculpture' - how giant is it, I don't see any reference