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The Dragon Quest series, while beloved, is hardly the epitome of peak SNES gaming. It’s always been (purposefully) extremely conservative and dated in its desig

The Dragon Quest series, while beloved, is hardly the epitome of peak SNES gaming. It’s always been (purposefully) extremely conservative and dated in its design. If you’re gonna go for quality SNES RPGs that show the console shining, you’d be better off with Terranigma, the Final Fantasy series, Tales of Phantasia, Chrono Trigger, etc, etc.

anonymous908213 8mo ago
There is indeed a very strong and deep library of JRPGs to recommend, but I strongly disagree that DQ is not among the best. I recently replayed two of them in the past two years and both were still 10/10 experiences for me. They are conservative, sure, but that's not a bad thing. One of the points I was making about limited hardware is that polished simplicity can trump overeager complexity, and I think the DQ games are a shining example of that.
- deaddodo 8mo ago
  I love DQ. My point wasn’t that they were bad RPGs. Simply that they don’t fit within OP’s point. Most of them could just as easily be NES/SMS games with slightly tuned down graphics; they don’t push the SNES in any meaningful way. As mentioned, that’s an intentional decision and not intended as a slight.
  - jasomill 8mo ago
    I get your point, but "slightly tuned down" is a bit hyperbolic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLUDMrmjgjQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLUDMrmjgjQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoyYtqi5u54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoyYtqi5u54
    - anonymous908213 8mo ago
      From the context of the conversation, it was clear they were talking about the Super Famicom entries, not saying that DQXI could be demoted to a Famicom game[1]. I don't really agree with them, although I didn't feel like continuing to belabour the point at the time. I think the SFC remakes of the Famicom DQ games (1-3) add an entirely new dimension to them. Despite their influential heritage, I do not think DQ 1-3 on the Famicom stand the test of time, and I don't think they're worth playing other than for the historical value of seeing how the genre developed. Whereas I think DQ 1-3 remakes on the Super Famicom conversely absolutely do hold up as top-notch experiences. [1] Although notably, they did release a demake of DQXI into a Super Famicom-style game!
    - deaddodo 8mo ago
      Did you just use a Gen 8 (3DS/Switch, PS4, Xbox One) game to make a point about SNES gameplay? Did you intentionally miss the point or are you attempting to obfuscate it? Obviously a game for modern consoles is going to be far more advanced than an NES game; even while still being quite conservative.

anonymous908213 8mo ago

There is indeed a very strong and deep library of JRPGs to recommend, but I strongly disagree that DQ is not among the best. I recently replayed two of them in the past two years and both were still 10/10 experiences for me. They are conservative, sure, but that's not a bad thing. One of the points I was making about limited hardware is that polished simplicity can trump overeager complexity, and I think the DQ games are a shining example of that.

deaddodo 8mo ago
I love DQ. My point wasn’t that they were bad RPGs. Simply that they don’t fit within OP’s point. Most of them could just as easily be NES/SMS games with slightly tuned down graphics; they don’t push the SNES in any meaningful way. As mentioned, that’s an intentional decision and not intended as a slight.
- jasomill 8mo ago
  I get your point, but "slightly tuned down" is a bit hyperbolic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLUDMrmjgjQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLUDMrmjgjQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoyYtqi5u54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoyYtqi5u54
  - anonymous908213 8mo ago
    From the context of the conversation, it was clear they were talking about the Super Famicom entries, not saying that DQXI could be demoted to a Famicom game[1]. I don't really agree with them, although I didn't feel like continuing to belabour the point at the time. I think the SFC remakes of the Famicom DQ games (1-3) add an entirely new dimension to them. Despite their influential heritage, I do not think DQ 1-3 on the Famicom stand the test of time, and I don't think they're worth playing other than for the historical value of seeing how the genre developed. Whereas I think DQ 1-3 remakes on the Super Famicom conversely absolutely do hold up as top-notch experiences. [1] Although notably, they did release a demake of DQXI into a Super Famicom-style game!
  - deaddodo 8mo ago
    Did you just use a Gen 8 (3DS/Switch, PS4, Xbox One) game to make a point about SNES gameplay? Did you intentionally miss the point or are you attempting to obfuscate it? Obviously a game for modern consoles is going to be far more advanced than an NES game; even while still being quite conservative.