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Sexual and intimate chat with LLMs will be a huge market for whoever corners it. They'd be crazy to leave that money on the table.

thayne 8mo ago
If your goal is to make money, sure. If your goal is to make AI safe, not so much.
- egorfine 8mo ago
  The definition of safety is something that we cannot agree on. For me, letting people mindlessly vibecode apps and then pretend this code can serve purpose for others - this is what's truly unsafe. Pornographic text in LLM? Come on.
  - koolala 8mo ago
    What if it knows you and knows how often you spend kinds of time on it? People would lie to it for excuses of why they need more and can't wait any longer?
koakuma-chan 8mo ago
It will be an even bigger market when robotics are sufficiently advanced.
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- dyauspitr 8mo ago
  At some point there will be robots with LLMs and actual real biological skin with blood vessels and some fat over a humanoid robot shell. At that point we won’t need real human relationships anymore.
palmotea 8mo ago
That's why laws against drugs are so terrible, it forces law-abiding businesses to leave money on the table. Repeal the laws and I'm sure there will be tons of startups to profit off of drug addiction.
- georgemcbay 8mo ago
  > Repeal the laws and I'm sure there will be tons of startups to profit off of drug addiction. Worked for gambling. (Not saying this as a message of support. I think legalizing/normalizing easy app-based gambling was a huge mistake and is going to have an increasingly disastrous social impact).
  - LPisGood 8mo ago
    Why do you think it will be increasingly bad? It seems to me like it’s already as bad as it’s capable of getting.
    - axus 8mo ago
      It's only been 8 years, the addicts lives and those they touch can keep getting worse until their death.
    - fragmede 8mo ago
      Because it's still relatively new. Gambling's been around forever, and so has addiction. What hasn't been around is gambling your life away on the same device(s) you do everything else in today's modern society on. If you had an unlimited supply of whatever monkey is on your back, right at your fingertips, you'd be dead before the week is out from an overdose. It's the normalization of this level of access to gambling which gives me great fear for the future. Giving drugs to minors is a bigger crime than to adults for a reason. Without regulation and strong cultural push back, it's gonna get way worse, unless we make huge leaps in addiction treatment (which I am hopeful for. GLP-1s aren't yet scientifically proven to help with that, but there's a large body of anecdotal evidence to suggest it does.
- chilmers 8mo ago
ekianjo 8mo ago
That market is for local models right now.
acetofenone 8mo ago
My main concern is when they'll start to allow 18+ deepfakes
tpurves 8mo ago
It's not just chat. Remember image and video generation are on the table. There are already a huge category of adult video 'games' of this nature. I think they use combos of pre-rendered and dynamic content. But really not hard to imagine a near future that interactive and completely personalized AI porn in full 4kHDR or VR is constantly and near-instantly available. I have no idea the broader social implications of all that, but the tech itself feels inevitable and nearly here.
indrora 8mo ago
Will be? I've seen four startups make bank on precicely that.

thayne 8mo ago

If your goal is to make money, sure. If your goal is to make AI safe, not so much.

egorfine 8mo ago
The definition of safety is something that we cannot agree on. For me, letting people mindlessly vibecode apps and then pretend this code can serve purpose for others - this is what's truly unsafe. Pornographic text in LLM? Come on.
- koolala 8mo ago
  What if it knows you and knows how often you spend kinds of time on it? People would lie to it for excuses of why they need more and can't wait any longer?

koakuma-chan 8mo ago

It will be an even bigger market when robotics are sufficiently advanced.

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dyauspitr 8mo ago
At some point there will be robots with LLMs and actual real biological skin with blood vessels and some fat over a humanoid robot shell. At that point we won’t need real human relationships anymore.

palmotea 8mo ago

That's why laws against drugs are so terrible, it forces law-abiding businesses to leave money on the table. Repeal the laws and I'm sure there will be tons of startups to profit off of drug addiction.

georgemcbay 8mo ago
> Repeal the laws and I'm sure there will be tons of startups to profit off of drug addiction. Worked for gambling. (Not saying this as a message of support. I think legalizing/normalizing easy app-based gambling was a huge mistake and is going to have an increasingly disastrous social impact).
- LPisGood 8mo ago
  Why do you think it will be increasingly bad? It seems to me like it’s already as bad as it’s capable of getting.
  - axus 8mo ago
    It's only been 8 years, the addicts lives and those they touch can keep getting worse until their death.
  - fragmede 8mo ago
    Because it's still relatively new. Gambling's been around forever, and so has addiction. What hasn't been around is gambling your life away on the same device(s) you do everything else in today's modern society on. If you had an unlimited supply of whatever monkey is on your back, right at your fingertips, you'd be dead before the week is out from an overdose. It's the normalization of this level of access to gambling which gives me great fear for the future. Giving drugs to minors is a bigger crime than to adults for a reason. Without regulation and strong cultural push back, it's gonna get way worse, unless we make huge leaps in addiction treatment (which I am hopeful for. GLP-1s aren't yet scientifically proven to help with that, but there's a large body of anecdotal evidence to suggest it does.
chilmers 8mo ago

ekianjo 8mo ago

That market is for local models right now.

acetofenone 8mo ago

My main concern is when they'll start to allow 18+ deepfakes

tpurves 8mo ago

It's not just chat. Remember image and video generation are on the table. There are already a huge category of adult video 'games' of this nature. I think they use combos of pre-rendered and dynamic content. But really not hard to imagine a near future that interactive and completely personalized AI porn in full 4kHDR or VR is constantly and near-instantly available. I have no idea the broader social implications of all that, but the tech itself feels inevitable and nearly here.

indrora 8mo ago

Will be? I've seen four startups make bank on precicely that.