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ChatGPT 5.2 has been a good motivator for me to try out other LLMs because of how bad it is. Both 5.1 and 5.2 have been downgrades in terms of instruction follo

ChatGPT 5.2 has been a good motivator for me to try out other LLMs because of how bad it is. Both 5.1 and 5.2 have been downgrades in terms of instruction following and accuracy, but 5.2 especially so. The upside is that that's had me using Claude much more, and I like a lot of things about it, both in terms of UI and the answers. It's also gotten me more serious about running local models. So, thank you OpenAI, for forcing me to broaden my horizons!

orphea 9mo ago
Have you had a chance to compare with Gemini 3?
- sundarurfriend 9mo ago
  Not extensively. The few interactions I've tried on it have been disappointing though. The Voice input is really bad, like significantly worse than any other major AI in the market. And I assumed search would be its strong suit and ran a search-and-compile type prompt (that I usually run on ChatGPT) on Gemini, and it was underwhelming at it. Not as bad as Grok (which was pretty much unusable for this), but noticeably worse than ChatGPT. Maybe Gemini has other strengths that I haven't come across yet, but on that one at least, it was ChatGPT 5 ~= Claude > ChatGPT 5.2 > Gemini >> Grok
- qingcharles 9mo ago
  I switch routinely between Gemini 3 (my main), Claude, GPT, and sometimes Grok. If you came up with 100 random tasks, they would all come out about equal. The issue is some are better at logical issues, some are better at creative writing, etc. If it's something creative I usually drop it in all 4 and combine the best bits of each. (I also use Deep Think on Gemini too, and to me, on programming tasks, it's not really worth the money)
  - deaux 9mo ago
    This is the only accurate take. Any people who claim that one of the big 3 is all around "bad" or "low quality" compared to the other two, can be ignored. They're close enough in overall "strength" yet different enough in strengths/weakness that it's very much task/domain-specific.
PlatoIsADisease 9mo ago
nah bruh you are just imagining it. Its just as good as ever /s
johnsmith1840 9mo ago
I left my chatgpt pro subscription when they removed the true deep thinkibg methods. Mostly because how massively varied their releases are. Each one required big changes to how I use and work with it. Claude is perfect in this sense all their models feel roughly the same just smarter so my workflow is always the same.
- Terretta 9mo ago
  > all their models feel roughly the same just smarter Substantial "applied outcomes" regression from 3.7 to 4 but they got right on fixing that.

orphea 9mo ago

Have you had a chance to compare with Gemini 3?

sundarurfriend 9mo ago
Not extensively. The few interactions I've tried on it have been disappointing though. The Voice input is really bad, like significantly worse than any other major AI in the market. And I assumed search would be its strong suit and ran a search-and-compile type prompt (that I usually run on ChatGPT) on Gemini, and it was underwhelming at it. Not as bad as Grok (which was pretty much unusable for this), but noticeably worse than ChatGPT. Maybe Gemini has other strengths that I haven't come across yet, but on that one at least, it was ChatGPT 5 ~= Claude > ChatGPT 5.2 > Gemini >> Grok
qingcharles 9mo ago
I switch routinely between Gemini 3 (my main), Claude, GPT, and sometimes Grok. If you came up with 100 random tasks, they would all come out about equal. The issue is some are better at logical issues, some are better at creative writing, etc. If it's something creative I usually drop it in all 4 and combine the best bits of each. (I also use Deep Think on Gemini too, and to me, on programming tasks, it's not really worth the money)
- deaux 9mo ago
  This is the only accurate take. Any people who claim that one of the big 3 is all around "bad" or "low quality" compared to the other two, can be ignored. They're close enough in overall "strength" yet different enough in strengths/weakness that it's very much task/domain-specific.

PlatoIsADisease 9mo ago

nah bruh you are just imagining it. Its just as good as ever /s

johnsmith1840 9mo ago

I left my chatgpt pro subscription when they removed the true deep thinkibg methods. Mostly because how massively varied their releases are. Each one required big changes to how I use and work with it. Claude is perfect in this sense all their models feel roughly the same just smarter so my workflow is always the same.

Terretta 9mo ago
> all their models feel roughly the same just smarter Substantial "applied outcomes" regression from 3.7 to 4 but they got right on fixing that.