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> [...] the vast majority of usage has shifted to GPT‑5.2, with only 0.1% of users still choosing GPT‑4o each day.
by simonw 10mo ago
> [...] the vast majority of usage has shifted to GPT‑5.2, with only 0.1% of users still choosing GPT‑4o each day.
- SecretDreams 10mo agoWhat's the default model when a random user goes to use the chatgpt website or app?
- mrec 10mo ago5.2 in the website. You can see what was used for a specific response by hovering over the refresh icon at the end.
- AlexeyBrin 10mo agoOn the paid version it is 5.2.
- bananaflag 10mo ago5.2. You can go to chatgpt.com and ask "what model are you" (it doesn't hallucinate on this).
- SecretDreams 10mo agoProbably a relationship between what's the default and what model is being used the most. It is more about what OAI sets than what users care about. Flip side is "good enough is good enough" for most users.
- johndough 10mo ago> (it doesn't hallucinate on this) But how do we know that you did not hallucinate the claim that ChatGPT does not hallucinate its version number? We could try to exfiltrate the system prompt which probably contains the model name, but all extraction attempts could of course be hallucinations as well. (I think there was an interview where Sam Altman or someone else at OpenAI where it was mentioned that they hardcoded the model name in the prompt because people did not understand that models don't work like that, so they made it work. I might be hallucinating though.)
- razodactyl 10mo agoConfabulating* If you were hallucinating we would be more amused :)
- lifetimerubyist 10mo agowon't somebody think of the goonettes?!
- deciduously 10mo agoThis was not a word I was prepared to learn about today.
- navigate8310 10mo agohttps://old.reddit.com/r/myboyfriendisai/top?t=all https://old.reddit.com/r/myboyfriendisai/top?t=all
- fpgaminer 10mo agoWell yeah, because 5.2 is the default and there's no way to change the default. So every time you open up a new chat you either use 5.2 or go out of your way to select something else. (I'm particularly annoyed by this UI choice because I always have to switch back to 5.1)
- arrowsmith 10mo agoWhat about 5.1 do you prefer over 5.2?
- fpgaminer 10mo agoAs far as I can tell 5.2 is the stronger model on paper, but it's been optimized to think less and do less web searches. I daily drive Thinking variants, not Auto or Instant, and usually want the _right_ answer even if it takes a minute. 5.1 does a very good job of defensively web searching, which avoids almost all of its hallucinations and keeps docs/APIs/UIs/etc up-to-date. 5.2 will instead often not think at all, even in Thinking mode. I've gotten several completely wrong, hallucinated answers since 5.2 came out, whereas maybe a handful from 5.1. (Even with me using 5.2 far less!) The same seems to persist in Codex CLI, where again 5.2 doesn't spend as much time thinking so its solutions never come out as nicely as 5.1's. That said, 5.1 is obviously slower for these reasons. I'm fine with that trade off. Others might have lighter workloads and thus benefit more from 5.2's speed.
- Terretta 9mo agoThis is a terrible thing to say out loud*, but, in all such cases I'd rather just give them the more money to do the better answers. It boggles the mind that "wrong answers only" is no longer just a meme, it's considered a valid cost management strategy in AI. * Because if they realize we're out here, they'll price discriminate, charging extra for right answers.
- xiphias2 9mo agoI'm the same with o3. Also it's full of bugs, showing JSON all the time while thinking. But still it's my favorite model, so I'm switching back a lot.
- adamiscool8 10mo ago0.1% of users is not necessarily 0.1% of conversations…