> But in a physical sense free will does not exist. I'd consider (deterministic) chaos to be pretty much free will anyway? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos

> But in a physical sense free will does not exist. I'd consider (deterministic) chaos to be pretty much free will anyway? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_theory [ Accidentally on purpose, time-loop stories like Groundhog Day almost perfectly illustrate this. Each time-loop people start out acting the same way: Deterministic, not random. But if the protagonist interacts with them (or the protagonist's actions ripple out), this changes the (initial) conditions, so people's behavior is no longer (as) predictable at all. Some of these stories even literally quote the butterfly effect. ]