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If you have contradicting data I'd be glad to see it >It's likely that a fully-attentive human driver would have done worse. Is based off the source I gave in

If you have contradicting data I'd be glad to see it >It's likely that a fully-attentive human driver would have done worse. Is based off the source I gave in my comment, the peer-reviewed model > a huge portion of human drivers Is based on my experience and bits of data like 30% of fatal accidents involving alcohol Like I said, if you have better data I'm glad to see it

themafia 9mo ago
> based on my experience The data completely disagrees with you. > Like I said, if you have better data I'm glad to see it We all have better data. It's been here the entire time: https://www.nhtsa.gov/research-data/fatality-analysis-reporting-system-fars https://www.nhtsa.gov/research-data/fatality-analysis-report...
- yesfitz 9mo ago
  What data completely disagrees with them and what does it disagree with them about? The "Persons Killed, by Highest Driver Blood Alcohol Concentration (BAC) in the Crash"[1] report shows that in 2023, 30% of fatal crashes involved at least one driver with a BAC > 0.08 (the legal limit), and 36% involved a BAC > 0.01. Interesting that "Non-motorist" fatalities have dropped dramatically for everyone under the age of 21, but increased for everyone between 21 and 74.[2] Those are raw numbers, so it'd be even more interesting to display them as a ratio of the group's size. Are less children being killed by drivers because there are less children generally? Changes in parents' habits? Backup cameras? 1: https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Trends/TrendsAlcohol.aspx https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Trends/TrendsAlcohol.aspx 2: https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Trends/TrendsNonMotorist.aspx https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Trends/TrendsNonMotorist.aspx
- jobs_throwaway 9mo ago
  Your data that shows 30% of fatal crashes involve alcohol, not to mention any of the other factors I named? Seems like your data supports my conclusion! Again, I welcome you to point to data that contradicts my claims, but it seems you are unable

themafia 9mo ago

> based on my experience The data completely disagrees with you. > Like I said, if you have better data I'm glad to see it We all have better data. It's been here the entire time: https://www.nhtsa.gov/research-data/fatality-analysis-reporting-system-fars https://www.nhtsa.gov/research-data/fatality-analysis-report...

yesfitz 9mo ago
What data completely disagrees with them and what does it disagree with them about? The "Persons Killed, by Highest Driver Blood Alcohol Concentration (BAC) in the Crash"[1] report shows that in 2023, 30% of fatal crashes involved at least one driver with a BAC > 0.08 (the legal limit), and 36% involved a BAC > 0.01. Interesting that "Non-motorist" fatalities have dropped dramatically for everyone under the age of 21, but increased for everyone between 21 and 74.[2] Those are raw numbers, so it'd be even more interesting to display them as a ratio of the group's size. Are less children being killed by drivers because there are less children generally? Changes in parents' habits? Backup cameras? 1: https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Trends/TrendsAlcohol.aspx https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Trends/TrendsAlcohol.aspx 2: https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Trends/TrendsNonMotorist.aspx https://www-fars.nhtsa.dot.gov/Trends/TrendsNonMotorist.aspx
jobs_throwaway 9mo ago
Your data that shows 30% of fatal crashes involve alcohol, not to mention any of the other factors I named? Seems like your data supports my conclusion! Again, I welcome you to point to data that contradicts my claims, but it seems you are unable