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So much negativity about Firefox in these threads. Could they be doing better? Absolutely, but without them we’d have almost no browser choice today. Even if y

So much negativity about Firefox in these threads. Could they be doing better? Absolutely, but without them we’d have almost no browser choice today. Even if you don’t care too much about FF itself, they also own the Gecko engine on top of which other browsers are built. Personally I’ve been using Zen for the past year and it’s been a pretty good experience. I should add a disclaimer that I’m not a frontend dev, so can’t speak to dev tooling.

timcobb 9mo ago
> Could they be doing better? Absolutely, but without them we’d have almost no browser choice today. They deserve it. The one thing people need from Mozilla is for it to fight browser monoculture, which is critical the free and open web. "They had one job." But, to the great detriment of humanity (I don't think I'm exaggerating), they're failing. That sucks. > Personally I’ve been using Zen. Thanks, I didn't know about Zen, I'll check that out. I'm on Brave, but would rather not be.
estimator7292 9mo ago
Nobody, nobody wants or needs yet another AI startup burning billions of dollars. We need an alternative to Chrome and a team and leader willing to make that happen. Mozilla loves to spew endless words about their "mission" to improve the internet. Shoveling more money on the fire that's consuming the entire internet is counterproductive. Do you know what would improve the internet and users' freedoms? A browser that can compete with Chrome. Mozilla is more interested in fat executive bonuses than actually doing anything.
phs318u 9mo ago
> So much negativity Yes. It's endlessly fascinating to me that so many people have such strong opinions on how other people should spend their money, what they should prioritise, etc. Like, what are you doing buddy? Made any donations to the foundation? Contributed to improving the source code (even via formal bug reports etc)? No? I'm shocked. People love to be invested in things until it costs them more than a comment in an internet forum.

timcobb 9mo ago

> Could they be doing better? Absolutely, but without them we’d have almost no browser choice today. They deserve it. The one thing people need from Mozilla is for it to fight browser monoculture, which is critical the free and open web. "They had one job." But, to the great detriment of humanity (I don't think I'm exaggerating), they're failing. That sucks. > Personally I’ve been using Zen. Thanks, I didn't know about Zen, I'll check that out. I'm on Brave, but would rather not be.

estimator7292 9mo ago

Nobody, nobody wants or needs yet another AI startup burning billions of dollars. We need an alternative to Chrome and a team and leader willing to make that happen. Mozilla loves to spew endless words about their "mission" to improve the internet. Shoveling more money on the fire that's consuming the entire internet is counterproductive. Do you know what would improve the internet and users' freedoms? A browser that can compete with Chrome. Mozilla is more interested in fat executive bonuses than actually doing anything.

phs318u 9mo ago

> So much negativity Yes. It's endlessly fascinating to me that so many people have such strong opinions on how other people should spend their money, what they should prioritise, etc. Like, what are you doing buddy? Made any donations to the foundation? Contributed to improving the source code (even via formal bug reports etc)? No? I'm shocked. People love to be invested in things until it costs them more than a comment in an internet forum.