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They are, and I do think it's illegal to interfere with police work.
by kreetx 8mo ago
They are, and I do think it's illegal to interfere with police work.
- donkeybeer 8mo agoHow is filming in public an "obstruction"? Do cameras or filmers have telekinetic powers? If you then tell me what is the safe radius where this telekinetic power is neutralized. Would an 800mm lens from 500 yards away be safe?
- kreetx 8mo agoIt is if you are doing it during a police operation. There is also no fixed radius. E.g, if there is a police op in one apartment, you are filming in another, but there is a wall in between, then the distance is miniscule. If you're walking along with the officer and filming the op as it happens, then you are in the radius. Even worse if you're also whistling.
- defrost 8mo agoIt's been established many times that it is perfectly legal in US law to film US police on US soil .. there's been state by state settings of acceptable distances, etc. ICE / DHS / Border patrol aren't US police, of course - they are immigration enforcement agents with more limited powers despite assertions by the current US federal administration to the contrary.
- kreetx 8mo agoIt doesn't seem to be legal to interfere with police work https://youtu.be/QePoawDA_48?si=0mr-lMR_lIRoBDA_ https://youtu.be/QePoawDA_48?si=0mr-lMR_lIRoBDA_, e.g, film or whistle during an operation. The constitution doesn't apply as naively as you think.
- donkeybeer 8mo agoThe video gives vague platitudes about filming limits just saying "do not obstruct" well duh, now define what not obstructing means, show case laws about the right radius or whatever else to film. No where does the video show he was "legally obstructing" the policework, just cites that a filmer must not obstruct.
- kreetx 8mo agoI'm sure that the investigation into the Alex Pretti event will give you more exact platitudes to rely on. Unlikely will its determination concur with yours, unfortunately. (But the future will tell, right!)
- donkeybeer 8mo agoIf they even let the investigation happen properly. This is trumpian "investigation" after all.
- kreetx 8mo agoFor Alex Pretti, there is already a video found where he kicks a police car's tail light loose during an earlier protest (while also carrying a gun to that event, too), so circumstances are stacking against him, unfortunately. I'd say, simply don't bring a gun to a protest! As then police won't need to do split second decisions about whether you are using lethal force against them or not.
- AngryData 8mo agoTo me saying "simply don't bring a gun to a protest" is according to constitutional law the same as saying "just don't say politically inflammatory things around officers who might accidentally interpret it as a personal threat and beat you".
- donkeybeer 8mo agoThat's a different case, how does it have anything to do with this.